PI exists and will be used accordingly.
The next time a class is above the rest in PVE, if you ask for nerfs to it, you’ll be a hypocrite.
Because you shouldn’t give a toss, as it allows you to kill the boss faster.
So don’t be a hypocrite and ask for nerfs to OP classes in PVE, okay?
Thanks for complying.
That Priest isn’t very good at the game of log climbers if they’re PI-ing anyone but themself. Why isn’t the Priest playing the same game you are?
And for the record, I don’t generally brigade for classes to be nerfed.
Because the priest doesn’t need the healing as much as a dps gets boosted, the value isn’t the same.
Nobody asked, really. Just remember to not be a hypocrite and ask for any nerfs in PVE, thanks.
Especially for purely social reasons. This problem is completely solvable by the groups that are having the problem. If there is a real balance issue someone should be able to show that but I have asked 3 times I think and so far have received nothing.
How do you solve the fairness problem?
Most players want to play on an equal playing field and will ask for nerfs/buffs to the top/lowest classes/specs.
PI is practically a BL every 2 minutes, a cheat, a hack, a boost for 1 player.
By asking your Priest to only PI themself.
If they don’t agree then I have to wonder why you can’t even get your own raid team to agree with you.
Do we ask top dps classes to mash their buttons slower?
Or do we ask for nerfs to top dps classes?
Pi has been a priest staple since vanilla. If you dont like it, maybe try getting good
How does getting good help you like it? Random much?
I thought your issue was that some players were getting external buffs, not that they were beating you in the logs. Why would we ask DPS classes to handicap themselves like that? Their own buttons aren’t an external source.
who are you even? this isnt your post? are you ok?
I have suggested that. I have suggested a deathroll at the beginning of a raid night so they can take turns. Or draw names out of a hat for an order in which to get PI.
back in the past, some time ago now but i raided with a guy who was “toxic” because he was friends with the priest and was the only person who ever got the private them-only hero buff. Its not accurate to say its only those who dont get it who are anti-human toxic ones.
overall im not even raiding at the moment so call me neutral but theres 2 sides to the coin you flipped, i had to make you aware of the one you didnt mention
It seems that you are constantly missing the point.
To make it clear to you again, we were talking about fairness.
If one class is above the others naturally, it’s unfair when comparing/racing against each other.
When one class is getting boosted, it’s unfair when comparing/racing against each other.
That’s why players ask for top dps classes to be nerfed.
That’s why players are asking for PI to be self-cast only.
To create a more even playing field.
I am asking you, about your statement.
How is it even logical?
In terms of contribution yes. I agree.
Only if you care more about who has the highest logs then the actual content you’re running. Which is fair, you’re allowed to play that game. But if you are then you should probably get the rest of your team to agree on it first.
The two issues you described are not related to one another and I don’t know why you keep trying to force them together. Do you dislike PI because it’s an external buff or because Warlocks are too strong? If it’s the latter you’ll need to help me connect the dots on how a Priest skill is responsible for Warlocks being too strong.
In what game? The game you’re playing isn’t real. You made it up yourself. In the actual game of WoW, there is no game mode where players on the same team compete to out damage each other.
I don’t need to get my team up to agree with anything i’m saying.
I’m trying to get Blizzard to agree to what i’m saying.
And no, it doesn’t mean i need to get you or anyone else to agree with me either.
My appeal is to Blizzard in regards to the unfairness of the spell.
In what game do players ask for nerfs to classes on top?
In this one.
Welcome to the wow forums.
You’ve yet to demonstrate that PI’s existence requires a nerf for anyone. Who should we nerf? Priests? Warlocks?
We should “nerf” PI to be self-cast only.
Class balance against each-other is also a goal.
Did you know that most humans can multi-task and focus on more than one thing?
And by demonstrate, i already presented my case that the spell offers an unfair boost.
You not wanting to admit that, is your problem.
And you were wrong.
Why would we nerf Priests? I thought we wanted to nerf classes that were on top. Priests aren’t on top?
I’m trying to get you to see how your argument is inconsistent. I’m beginning to think I’m wasting my time. Regardless, you’re not going to get what you want. Blizzard has already gone on record saying that they don’t want to limit their design space in that way for no reason, and it has already made a return in the Dragonflight talent trees. And if this thread has proven anything, it’s that keeping PI as is is a far more popular stance than gutting it would be. At least on GD. So you have an uphill battle ahead of you to say the least. Have fun yelling at the sky I suppose.
I am right though, you not recognizing that says a lot about you though.
Did you notice that the “nerf” was in “” ? It’s actually a buff to priests output as they will receive the buff then.
See… this is why it’s plain to see how you’re not being truthful to how you read things on your part, most people know what “nerf” versus nerf represents and i’d wager that you know too.