On the contrary. Bfa raids are considerably harder compared to any vanilla raid.
This is just fact.
And the meme message goes to.
Thatâs not contrary to what he was saying.
This wasnt uncommon lvl 40-45 hunters could destroy mediocre lvl 60s. Hunter has the kit if you have the skill and time to pick up some gear
It was a rhetorical reply to those who think vanilla/classic raids were difficult. It wasnât a reply directly to what he wss was saying.
LookâŚ
In Vanilla, Onyxia was down in 69 days from launch.
From launch. Of a game that no one really knew how to play yet, just whatever they learned in beta.
Thatâs endgame content that 40 people had to hit 60, gear, collect mats, and figure out strategies for.
And they did it in 2 months.
I mean⌠is anyone surprised anymore? Some people are REALLY freaking talented at video games, and my hatâs off to them.
I believe this video is Vanilla âhardâ. I donât think anythingâs been nerfed. I just think theyâre that good.
Youâre just not seeing the 20 other videos of them failing at it, figuring it out, and perfecting their run. I know itâs crazy! But a 15 year old girl just won over the #1 tennis player in the world. Anything is possible.
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Hi,
this sort of thing is absolutely possible in classic wow, given these players got capped at level 30 and no doubt got the bis gear at that point of the game as what else are you going to do in a game beta that doesnt go to cap level. Also has anyone mentioned that the warrior in the video is a high profile streamer lol theres no question he would of had a army of followers who gave him gold and helped him get the most powerful level 30 gear
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No gear exists in the game at level 30 to boost your defense up so much that you can stand in front of an elite 10 levels higher than you without dying.
People will play classic next week, feel how incredibly easy it is, get bored & stop playing. Bookmark this thread. Come back in October.
On my pserver, my 34 all mail, shield, tanky paladin takes hits from the exact same mobs in sm. The level 30 warrior in these videos takes 40 damage a hit from the mobs. My lvl 34 takes 120 damage a hit.
I played vanilla wow. You couldnât go into a dungeon ten levels higher & expect to win. I twink my characters out as I level, itâs fun to me, I played vanilla in 2004-2006 & I played pservers for several years afterwards. I know what Iâm talking about. I tested damage myself with my own character to compare to the videos of the level 30 warrior.
I want to be wrong. I want the game to be fun. I do not want the game to be this easy. If they do not buff enemy damage, everyone will get bored & quit.
Hereâs a video of 5 level 33-35 players doing the exact same thing in 2006 on a live vanilla server. The difference is, these characters only have 1/5th the buffs that Asmons group does, and not near the same level of gear.
You are wrong. It happens. Get over it and move on.
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Herod/armory is a level 35 dungeon.
Cathedral is the biggest offender here. Armory isnât possible in an all level 30 group.
âIs Classic actually Classic?â Yes, and Vanilla is actually Vanilla, But we will never see
Vanilla again. So enjoy Classic!!!
And Onyxia is a 40 man raid, that was done by 6 players.
You are wrong. It happens. Get over it and move on.
You act like I have something to gain by the game being nerfed.
It will be too easy. The game will die as a result.
I donât want that to happen.
You are wrong about the game being nerfed. Get over it. Move on.
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Oh but it is. They donât use cc. Healers donât oom. Tank doesnât hold agro. But the groups never die. The dungeon gameplay resembles the brain dead easy mode retail experience.
If you donât have to think about what youâre doing in the dungeon while the game is tuned so it accommodates your failures, so much so that itâs impossible to wipe. That is precisely what killed wow 10 years ago & precisely what will ensure its potential is never realized with the relaunch.
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Is this thread just a troll attempt to get asmontrash more views? Now Iâm going to have youtube recommendations for him for months. Do you KNOW how long it took me to get him off my recommendations?!
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They donât go OOM becuse they rotate who is healing. They donât use CC, because CC is not needed for that boss fight. Tank losses aggro a lot because of misses, but they are smart enough to kite the boss around while the tank regains aggro.
It was very possible for them wipe, but they reacted quickly, and did exactly what was needed to kill Herod. They attempted something similar in Sunken temple and failed dramatically, because Level 40 content is easier than level 50 content.
This is nothing like retail. You are wrong. It happens. Get over it and move on.
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Forget boss fights. Trash pulls in the dungeon should kill them. The first mob in cathedral should hit you so hard & take you so long to kill that your group turns around right there & leaves. It isnât classic.
Agree to disagree. Bookmark this thread come back in October & see.
I watched thier entire run of SM. They pulled around corners and used the terrain to thier advantage way more than a level 35-38 group would. Every pull was a nightmare, and they didnât use much CC, because the CC would be resisted, so they used two hunters to kite instead. Youâll see in a month.
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It seems like you think they should be taking a lot of damage specifically because theyâre level 30. Can you explain why?