Is BfA the Horde's lowest point?

This is simply wrong. I agree that blizz uses it as a crutch but canon is canon.

You have a very differnt idea of stong than I do. Losing everything and falling apart doesn’t qualify for me.

Genocide is bad. You can’t simultaneously count it as a win but shame horde for it. Alliance could, but wouldn’t. That is the difference. Okay, you didn’t kill a bunch of civilains, shame on you. Alliance won lorderon, Sylvanas had a scorched each backup plan, might be the only instance of light planning ahead by her. Doesnt change the fact alliancece steam rolled Brill and pushed her to the point she had to use that plan. Force the self destruction is a win. Holy crap did alllinace mow down horde forced during that event.

Alliance raided dazaralor, striking a significant blow to an ally the horde was trying to get. That whole plan went flawlessly for alliance. Took arathi, whether you acknowledge the dev comment or not its canon. Flat esrther deny science doesn’t make em right.

Re-takeing org, I might give you. I really think that the combined saurfang/anduin army would have taken it but at a masive cost. If you play threw the horde loyalist side you see that sylvanas forces are depleted, and they are forced into throwing civialns up on the walls, and that there is a rebeion force growing within the gates. This show how far BfA dragged down both the horde and alliance.

You can cherry pick and ignore stuff to try and say horde had it good and alliance was nothing but crapped on in bfa. Horde lost everything after WoT, thats a fact. Allince won, most everything after. Maybe not in a resounding way or in the eye for an eye “allince need their turn at genocide and stomping on babies” kind if way you advocate for. I will stick with my original stamement.

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