They ABSOLUTELY have.
How do you figure? I’m pretty sure the average gladiator player could still get gladiator on just about any spec. Feels like the only criminally undertuned specs relative to everything else atm are DH and Rdruid.
Sure, stuff like bm/feral/sp are still overtuned, but that hasn’t stopped me or anyone from beating those comps. Is it harder? Sure. Is it unplayable? Absolutely not IMO.
That’s not what I’m saying. Balance is tricky, but it’s gotten better with every patch and there’s just no way that someone can look at the start of TWW and the game now and feel like it’s gotten less balanced as opposed to more. It’s not where it should be yet, but no one is gatekept by their spec right now, which is good.
Okay, well recent balance updates to buff already OP specs says you’re wrong.
You keep using this word “unplayable”. I do not think that word means what you think it means.
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What do you think it means? Are you aware that it’s an idiom? Do you want me to explain to you what an idiom is too?
Yes, we’re all here for you to explain how exactly it’s “unplayable,” because so far you’ve only screamed about how birds aren’t real and in fact government drones, while providing zero evidence.
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That’s because Blizzard has been buffing classes based STRICTLY on PvE and not adding enough “This will not effect PvP” modifiers to those buffs. They really don’t buff for PvP related things now. It was def better in DF since it seems like they atleast had a team that was dedicated to doing some PvP balance…now it just seems like they group the PvP modifiers and buffs based directly off their PvE changes.
Big example of this is Feral. They buffed Feral in PvP multiple weeks in a row even though Feral was already disgusting in PvP. This was because Feral Single Target in PvE was pretty mid-tier and they wanted to bring it up higher in PvE. But they never added the “This will not effect PvP” modifier lol…This balance team is really a joke.
Cough Cough…Ele hitting 2.4mil Crit earthshocks back to back…cough cough.
I mean, that could be a reason. I have seen a couple PvE related changes to specs that didn’t need them. I’m not sure what’s going on, but this season has been really bad. The thing I like about BBG is that it’s objective based so the balance issues aren’t as apparent.
In arena setting tho, they are so blatantly obvious when BM hunters chunk you for your entire health all game.
That isn’t happening. I’ve never even seen an earthshock that big, and when they are big they’re fully ramped from flame shock dots which you can’t send back-to-back.
Yea as a BM Hunter I’m not gonna lie the Bleak Powder change wasn’t really enough. Also the 25% nerf to Barbed shot does absolutely nothing to curb BM damage. If they want to really curb BM damage they need to nerf Black Arrow damage itself.
Black Arrow hitting for 1mil damage as BM is just grossly over-tuned in my mind. It needs to be hitting crits MAX on BM Hunter for like 500-600k. This would alleviate a ton of pressure from BM since those Black Arrows can proc back to back to back over and over if you get lucky.
Literally watched Wizk and Pikaboo queue Tuesday night in 3s and Wizk on the opener popped Ascendance and hit 2.4mil Earthshocks after the chain lava burst spam lol.
Pikaboo brought up the deathlog of the player and it was like 87k LBs x12 finished with a 2.4mil Earthshock.
It was just so crazy watching these BM hunters just do disgusting damage all game all while being immortal. And then you have aff locks and spriest doing insane damage while also being unkillable, and then there’s warriors who are now equally tanky with insane damage. The game is just not fun.
Possibly with a radiant power and trinket proc, but that’s FAR from the norm (i usually crit ramped earth shocks for ~1.2 mil and theyre normally 5-600k). You also cannot do those back-to-back even with maelstrom pooled because you need the flameshock buff to ramp up again.
I agree that BM didn’t need the buffs it got with the rework and needs to be nerfed, but that’s one class out of, what, 33 non-tank specs? When EVERY other class has been brought closer and closer to solid balance?
Sounds like you just aren’t enjoying shuffle that much! Just play blitz if you like it more! 
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Ya know, sometimes I feel bad for all the bullying you get in these forums, but then you respond like that. Rude.
Change one letter in the word “idiom” and that just about sums up my opinion of you and your contributions to this thread. Provide criticism beyond hyperbole and “game bad” and “game unplayable”.
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These on-the-fly adjustments by Blizzard are ridiculous. People are playing it like a pick-a-hero in a MOBA game. As a new player, PvP in WoW is by far the most frustrating experience I’ve had in an MMO
I agree. The moment something gets buffed everyone levels their alt of that character and then all you see are those same few specs. There needs to be more thought put into balancing from this point on.
Obviously the solution is that we need to get rid of honor transfers and other things that made it easier to gear alts
While that is an issue because people can easily re roll, people want to play their alts. They’ve gone over this in several interviews that’s the path they’re taking. If balance was better people wouldn’t feel the need to constantly re roll.
