Is Anyone Else Totally Unbothered by the Prune?

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@Phlynch-sentinels

The correct way to play should be apparent by reading what your buttons do and figuring out what order to press them yourself.

That is already the case for many specs, but quite a few are convoluted.
Also, WoD was a huge mistake.
Let’s hope this does not turn into WoD 2.

@Spiralle-dalaran

There will be brand new players that won’t have anything to compare the pruned talents to.

They can play classic and private servers though.
Aiming this 20yo game at a new crowd is a shot to the feet.

All that said, the prune can be good if done right, and it’s downright necessary for some specs.
They should even rethink some specs’ very theme/design.

But what I’ve seen so far is very mixed in that regard, some good changes, many bad changes.

We need more development to see it taking shape and decide whether it’s better now or before.

In WoD’s case, the answer was a clear “before”.

@Cruelmoon-nemesis

I don’t see this as a prune, honestly. In the past, the idea was to remove for the sake of removing. Right now, it feels like they’re getting rid of redundancy and weird priority conflicts.

I don’t think mages losing 50%+ of their utility and survivability is a net positive, unless the “glass canon” gameplay is back.

@Paladina-kargath

We’re going to lose players.

With just addon apocalypse or skill prune, we’d lose 5-10%. With both… I’m not confident we’ll reach TLT unless they really nail the new gameplay and base UI, which is not something I think will happen.

@Mattyfresh-lightnings-blade

Trying to keep an open mind but I find my main spec to be so enjoyable to play right now, the fact it will surely be much different seems a risk

Without even seeing it at work, this is how I feel about the new frost mage.
It feels like a downgrade, like Wrath → Cata or MoP → WoD. Again.

@Saceria-tichondrius

The only prune I’m actually truly bothered by is how they are removing Mass Barrier AND massively reducing the Mirror Image uptime for Mage.

And blast wave, barrier heal+uptime, ice block heal, displacement heal… The mage class changes are a disaster for solo play and PvP.

Doubling down on the worst new spell of the class kit since vanilla (Alter Time) only worsens the deal.

@Chroesire-bleeding-hollow

The main thing that bothers me is if they’re cutting down the breadth of the abilities I have, like WoD did. I hated that “fire mage” was taken to its logical extreme and had zero frost or arcane abilities. It didn’t make me feel like the “archmage” I’m vaunted as, it made me feel like one of those oversimplistic rogue wizard NPCs milling around in Elwynn.

^ THIS ^

@Karazòrel-zuljin

Im going to miss Explosive shot, but waiting to see what takes its place.

Imagine being an OG Wrath/Cata Survival hunter and losing your most iconic skill. Again.

@Christtel-stormrage

I would take tww class design , combat, response and overall feeling over ANY expansion. No question

Heavily depends on spec here to me, and even which patch.
But overall, I’d stick to TWW, MoP or Legion (DH only).
For some specs/classes, even Wrath or Cata.

@Azugren-baelgun

If they remove the bloat for the sake of bloat and cut it down then they can design the game around positioning,

Then it becomes a MOBA. Might as well add targeted combat and further segregate regions, as high latency (80+ ms) would make for a miserable experience.