This Valor system just seems weird. You can’t purchase gear with it, have a cap restriction like Conquest, but suppose to spam spend it like Honor to upgrade items… and with way more upgrade ranks
If you think +10 is on par with mythic raiding you have no idea about the game.
The problem is it depends on how low that item is. You have a fixed amount of valor each season, you can only upgrade so many things. If you upgrade a trinket from 184 to 220 it will cost you about 4k valor, which will likely be over 25% of the total valor you can earn in a season. So yea you have some flexibility in maybe upgrading 203 or 207 items to 220, but not doing it for a full set below that.
Haha … he said loot from dungeons… lol
/wipeattearsonface
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It makes sense in Blizzard’s World of Systems that are designed to grind the players into the ground! 
Players asked for Valor vendors. Blizzard gave them a Valor system based on RNG. As well as only offering it for Mythic+ dungeons. If you’re not playing WoW the way Blizzard want’s you to then you’re playing it wrong!
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It is padding content for M+ players since it who knows when 9.1 will drop.
Grind the players into the ground while milking them for more cash.
Casuals who are willing and able to pay hundreds of dollars for tokens can buy keymaster with a loot funnel that guarantees them 16 pieces of gear for their money. That’s free money for Blizzard.
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In a galaxy far far away.
In a galaxy far far away. . .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LR8_nlmo1Ec
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Buddy, heroic raiding guilds got keystone master.
If you can’t get keystone conqeuror as heroic raider, even partially completed heroic, that’s on you, not on game.
+10s timed is easy now after so many nerfs and more ilvl.
10s drop lower ilvl gear than 207, so you can upgrade your gear beyond what the goal dungeon drops. how much ilvl do you need to complete content?
To be honest, they should’ve got rid of mythic + dungeons this is really getting out of hand,Imho,they should’ve left it only mythic.
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Long ago in a galaxy far far away…
Ion is that you?
That ilvl isn’t required for full +10s
This was me last week before I hit 1600 in pvp. I could have upgraded 4-5 pieces of 207 ilvl gear to 213 but now I’m rocking pvp gear.
Um, do you not understand how gearing and the M+ system works?
Imagine you are fully geared in 184/187 gear from M0 and M2. Then you start pushing your keys. As you push keys you get some gear drops and some items from the vault. Eventually, this means you will be in a place where some of your gear is 220, most is hovering around 210, but some are still stuck back at under 200 due to shear bad luck. I actually ran around with an ilvl 187 trinket while at 213 ish ilvl just cause it was BiS and it only dropped once.
Thats the situation that the Valor system addresses. So that you aren’t stuck with one or two pieces that are way under your average ilvl, but instead you can upgrade those pieces to something more decent.
Yes, that assumes you are running M+ regularly. And that you are doing all of them, not just Mists over and over again.
you mistake blizzard’s goal here
it isn’t to make players happy, it is to increase grind in an activity that was seeing major participation drops
just another carrot behind another massive grind
they were also seeing a huge drop in people farming anima, thus why that is a massive part of this new grind
That also assumes that bis trinket (or any other unfortunate slot) will drop again for you on any freaking level to upgrade it. That’s way too big an assumption. Without a vendor like PvP, this addresses nothing.
But that’s EXACTLY my point, getting the items to drop through M+ means that there’s a pretty good chance you could be on a dry spell of items for quite a bit. Hell, my profile is open, take a look at what my slots/ilvl are looking like. Those shoulders? Those were from the Ulduar timewalking over 8 weeks ago. Since then I’ve run enough keys for KSC and 15 slots or so in the Vault with no upgrades. Without a stopgap for bad slot RNG, even if it’s just a vendor that sells rank 1 versions of items for valor cap, this system does a lot less than people think
Ya the valor point system is a laughing joke. The upgrade items is pointless and buying 10 hide for what 700 valor points? The amount of time it will take me to get 700 valor points i can farm like 50 greater hides in that same time window.
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