Agreed. Put the title drop bar in. Titles are RP elements and should not break personal RP. I don’t even RP and I support this change.
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Again, the opening cinematic, both for the game and for character creation, as well as a massive amount of quest text, says otherwise. If you can ignore this in your headcanon, then I don’t know why the console command OP mentioned doesn’t let you ignore titles even existing in your headcanon.
First, never once did I mention “people should/shouldn’t get to have their titles.” I said you’re given military ranks, and I’m pretty sure active soldiers, in most instances, must have their rank on display.
Second, You can, on your side, by typing:
/console UnitNamePlayerPVPTitle 0
And you can turn it back on by typing:
/console UnitNamePlayerPVPTitle 1
It’s client-side, but if you’re concerned with seeing it yourself, then you will no longer see it.
That’s kind of an issue when you’re trying to RP within a closed system, and expect that closed system to cater to whims and desires outside said system. You’re going to have issues RPing as a Greyhawk orc that is a champion of Garl Glittergold in Krynn, you’re going to have issues RPing as a Carthian in a city full of Lancea et Sanctum, and you’re gonna have issues RPing as someone who isn’t a soldier in any fashion in a game that gives you a rank by killing another player.
You can, fully, on your own client. If anyone cares enough about seeing “Private” next to your name, they can do so as well.
It was directly promoted as a PvP event. Getting HKs in Classic gives you a rank. HKs are obtained through PvP. Unless you’ve never touched Classic before, it’s pretty clear that a PvP event, where you would have conflict with other players, would result in getting a rank.
Another reasonable request that i’m sure will be hit with the “no changes” mantra
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Your character isn’t “marred”.
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Then why was she fighting in battlegrounds?
Sounds like it’s time to work on your back story to explain the title.
You’re operating on a very mistaken understanding of what roleplay is if you think everyone is expected to cater 100% to what the game sets up for them. That’s like saying every player in roleplay has personally, individually killed Hogger. Obviously that can’t really be the case because there’s only one of him. You’d have to be being consciously absurd to force the exact canon events onto every player. Roleplay is not just allowed to be imaginative, but rather, it is by default. It’s bizarre to me that you would insist it be otherwise. My character in my roleplay is not a soldier. That isn’t your decision to make, neither is it Blizzard’s, nor is it Abraham Lincoln’s or Kermit the Frog’s. I and I alone dictate what my character is in roleplay, and if you can’t understand that then you have a fundamental misunderstanding of roleplay.
The difference between a title existing on my screen versus on someone else’s screen is that I’m not choosing to portray my character as a Private, but that’s still what they’re presenting as. If your character’s name was forcibly changed to “Pootbrain”, you could surely find an addon to change that on your end, but that doesn’t change the fact that everyone is going to see you as Pootbrain and that is going to affect your interactions with people. Better that you just get to name yourself.
You’re also coming off as gatekeeping who’s allowed to play Classic. Yeah, I came in during Burning Crusade and never played in Classic. So no, I never got the memo that the game would change my name if I did a PvP event. Does that mean I should be punished for all time?
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It’s called “OOC”. Out Of Character. I was playing the video game in that moment, not actively roleplaying the character. That’s normal. Refer to my Hogger analogy earlier. Would you seriously argue that every roleplayer in the world who’s killed Hogger is forced to roleplay in their backstory that they were the one who killed him? You’re being absurd just to be contrarian.
PvP battlegrounds are optional.
Forced, no. No skin off my nose if you keep quiet about killing a gnoll.
Yup.
That sort of talk is inappropriate.
Please, let us keep the forums civil.
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I’m not. Hence why I mentioned “closed” systems.
Generally, in the first couple expansions, the quests do suggest you take a group of people to carry out difficult tasks. The game doesn’t suggest you’ve killed Onyxia or Nefarian single-handedly. This changes later on when you start to be called “Champion,” “Maw Walker,” etc., but vanilla isn’t in that realm.
Within range of a closed system. Else wise, the close system is not required in the slightest. You’ve completely removed instrumental play in favor of complete and undeterred free play; you don’t need a video game of any kind at this point.
Except the character isn’t your property; it is Blizzard’s property. Blizzard is fully allowed not only to revoke access to your account from you, but they could then proceed to play on the account you play on, as the character you play as, and roleplay as they wish. And they’ve already dictated aspects of your character before giving permission for you to play said character. Hence why you get military ranks with HKs.
Also, still within a closed system. That’s like saying if your character dies in a TTRPG from something you, yourself, said it died to, that your character isn’t dead.
If you turn it off on your screen, you’d likely forget it existed after 10 minutes, permitting you don’t have someone constantly referring to you by your rank. If someone is doing so, then request, OOC, that they not do so, and carry on.
Don’t most people that RP a lot in the game actually use add-ons to facilitate it a bit, to the point that they can appear to have different names?
A bit of a false equivalence. The concept of “gatekeeping” is only relevant under the assumption that instrumental play of a game is for “everybody,” as in regardless of how they interact and all at once, rather than “anybody,” as in each person that is willing to participate within the closed system of instrumental play. No game with instrumental play is for “everybody.” Hell, no free play is for “everybody,” as one can impose on another person’s free play very easily.
No, and I don’t see it being punishment for all time. You’re not indefinitely locked to that character, but even if you were, you can hide the titles on your client, and you can choose who to RP with, meaning you can choose to RP only with people who either also have titles hidden, or who will never mention them.
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As expected, you are being brigaded by people who don’t have any argument other than “muh no changes”. Gotta love classic purists who hate any kind of change. They’re the kind of people who look back fondly at the “good ol’ days” when paladins had to drink from a separate water fountain.
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I support the addition of title drop bar being added, please, and also support add more titles to classic, cmon.
no. this would ruin my lvl 1 bank character, Parts
I agree so hard, it hurts.
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