you do the math:
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/zone/statistics/21
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/zone/statistics/22#difficulty=4
Itâs adorable that people actually think itâs this simple.
Using the 75% is a pretty bad joke.
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Oh wow, wtf have I been smoking?
Not really. Your DPS goes down basically the entire time you are on CD. The spike is far too high.
You could adjust coefficients to make them all exactly equal on warcraftlogs and 2 weeks later they wont be equal anymore.
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Class balance is better than itâs ever been before, the devâs are actually doing an amazing job. We couldnât ask for better folks to work on this game than what we have right now. If anything, we should be thanking them for the hard work they have been putting in.
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I donât usually âlolâ, even when I type it. I did this time. lol gg
I honestly agree.
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Almost every spec goes down during their âdowntimeâ. Thatâs what makes cooldownsâŚcooldowns. Aff is WAYYY less âdependentâ on their cooldown than say Ret, Destro, or I believe both flavors of Warrior. Yes, there are specs like BM or Demo that have short cooldowns that the âdowntimeâ is much smaller and thus affects overall damage LESS.
You SHOULD do more damage during your cooldown. If you donât then that is frankly a balancing issue such as pre-8.1 MM Hunter and current Frost Mage where you lose less than 10% overall damage if you never hit the button. Think about that. A frost mage that does everything else correctly and just never hits Icy-Veins still gets an âAâ.
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I hear that. I was debating raiding on my lock this expansion but last minute i decided to stick with my dk. (main since wrath) Needless to say I regret it and here I am mid expansion switching over to my lock as my main. The class is a shell of its former self. It used to be fun now its essentially a 1 trick pony spec with breath.
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Your dps goes down after CDs end? No.
How long have you played affliction? It went from the gameâs premier rot spec to a 3 minute mage.
It has been destroyed by itâs reliance on Darkglare and deathbolt during darkglare.
It is the most literal three minute mage ever.
The issue is not CDs. The issue is completely ruining a spec that was never hugely CD reliant by superimposing the same homogenized class design into it and almost every other.
If you could actually take nightfall or Ds it would be a little bit of a different story, but aff is now a high ramp burst spec with major reliance on a 3 minute CD.
Shadow and balance are miles better for multi target dotting with far less reliance on CD cycles and Destro is a better cleave spec even if itâs got major issues too.
I know how CDs work. But you are saying itâs fine that itâs damage tanks after CDs despite the entire specs history saying it should not be a CD reliant spec.
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I get 45-50k+ deathbolts without darkglare. The spec is not hard nor does it fall off like a brick compared a majority of other specs. Also I do want to point out that Legion Aff was just as bursty. It was every 40 seconds or whatever compared to 3 minutes, but the damage in drain cycle made your regular UAs and other dots look like white swings.
On the comment about shadow and balance I think it entirely depends on what you are cleaving. If it is a fight where your damage to the second target straight up doesnât matter (like CotC, Rasta, and Mekka) then I think both Aff and Ele beat balance in using the âcleaveâ to funnel their ST damage. Destro wins on actual âcleaveâ damage, but on a fight like Mekka where I have 4 Agonyâs floating around, the shard generation is much higher than Destro.
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Yeah on crits, those are hits with Darkglare up.
Itâs pointless anyway. Legion didnât have the damage tied to a 3 minute CD. It was tied to Reap/Drain cycles like you said, but the spec had major flexibility through legendaries and the way the talent tree was built to play around on a fight-by-fight basis. Now, you essentially either take Writhe, Endless, or SL.
There is no choice at any other point.
Whatever though. Itâs not fun. Locks just arenât fun. Maybe if demo got a single target nudge, but itâs junk to be immobile and have a low top-end in single target and ungrouped cleave situations.
But you are ultimately highlighting what Iâve said before: Aff functions, itâs damage is fine, itâs delivery is boring, unexciting, and unforgiving in a lot of ways, but since it functions, itâs fine. Which is all they want anything. Not fun, just fine.
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No?
From Thursday. Sloppy kill, but my average DB is 50k with my lowest being 35k where I probably messed up. A Darkglare hit is in the realm of 135k on opener where I capped out at a 309k crit on opener one pull.
^all the pulls from thursday
Aff is not hard and is also one of the least forgiving specs in the game.
I would prefer to play Demo, but that spec has a lot of issues on progression fights.
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Wow, I really hope youâre trolling!
Remember when Obliterate did that thing⌠what was that again? Oh yeah, obliterate. Yeah, I have to agree it doesnât feel good. When I used to main DK back in Cata and MoP (before Blizz ruined Blood), frost was so much fun. It was super fast while dual-wielding and hit like a truck (hit even harder with 2h but I stuck to dw). Now, it feels super clunky and so freaking sluggish. If we could revert DK back to Cata that would be great.
*They were a little squishy for plate-wearers though. Could have used a buff
Anybody with a DPS meter knew that DK dps is in the pooper.
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I am in agreement with you. Aff is effective but boring and unforgiving. Demo is far more engaging but far less flexible. Which is all the point is:
If itâs not fun who cares? Itâs why I am not subbed.
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