I'm trying to like Void Elves... I really am

I feel they are Blizzards response to High Elves, knowing they’re never going to add Helves to Alliance but also knowing people will never stop asking they simply did what they considered a compromise.

Sure, people are gonna beg for Helves till the end of time, but the number has significantly decreased, and Velves have added a new argument against it.

The Void Elves were banished and shunned by the Grand Magister Rommath.

Void Elves would protect Quel’Thalas. Just because the Alliance and Horde have certain attitudes, doesn’t mean both factions won’t protect each other.

Seriously.

The Horde have always been a faction willing and ready to defend Stormwind if they needed it.

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(Commentary): 90% of the Kingdom, as per Blizzard’s own official website.

(Commentary): There’s no proof. Even if it were true (which its not because there are enough Dalaran High Elves left to form the Silver Covenant and still have plenty for the Kirin Tor and other city services), then these elves still weren’t in Quel’Thalas when 90% of the Kingdom was destroyed, meaning there are still unaccounted for elves.

(Commentary): As per the Chronicles, the city was evacuated with only a skeleton crew of mages left to defend it.

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Because Void Elves are High Elves and Blood Elves are High Elves, and the Silver Covenant cannot be made playable without focusing the lore on them–and that doesn’t work because Silver Covenant is a tiny, inconsequential, and politically contentious group of High Elves who, though the centuries, never could find a way to get along with any of their fellow High Elves.

People want to play “pure” blonde, blue-eyed High Elves who wish to keep all other factions of High Elf off the Dalaran Council. The end. They want a faction (and a suspiciously Godwin-like faction, at that), not a race. They already have the race in the game, and have since BC. Because of their beauty, the High Elf races–both Blood Elves and Void Elves are already HIGHLY overrepresented in the world’s population.

What part of this don’t people get? Sigh. If they just give them the option to play one with blue eyes, I think it would make a lot of them happy. It won’t make all of them happy, however, because until we have an expansion ABOUT the Silver Covenant elves, with those guys playing the main part of the story and some kind of High Elf civil war that means both factions can play blonde, blue-eyed High Elves, that group of passionate High Elf players won’t shut up, and we will continue to have the front page of GD littered with these 5k-long posts demanding and defending the demands for “High Elves” which means “Silver Covenant” elves because we already HAVE High Elves–lots of them.

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Agreed. Then we can focus on other races I actually want lol

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90% of the high elf race was lost. it doesnt matter if you lived in dalaran. you were still part of the race. are you saying kael’thas and his community are not part of the kingdom?

then where did they go? they didnt go to SW there is absolutely zero proof for that. we know after the second war contact with humans was basically limited to dalaran. only a couple priests and a mage were bothering to follow jaina and arthas still. and can you guarantee all of those elves remained after arthas betrayed them and what happened in quel’thalas?

the SC are brand new as well and mostly farstriders who probably sought refuge there after their people joined the horde and they didnt want to be a part of it. meanwhile aethas sunreaver was sitting on the damn council. not a SC elf. why? whats the implication? theres the obvious one but i would love to hear some helfer fanfiction

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https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/game/races/blood-elf

(Commentary): Right there. 90% of the Kingdom’s population.

(Commentary): I imagine the elves who were part of Quel’Thalas and not Dalaran left with Kael’thas, which still left an impressive number of High Elves around, as visible in Dalaran in Wrath, MoP, and Legion.

(Commentary): The same place as the rest of Dalaran’s evacuated population. We’ve never been told where that was.

(Commentary): Because he was appointed to the Council as a Mage of great power? Dalaran is a meritocracy, after all. Interestingly, he’s no longer a part of the Council. I wonder why that is?

(Analysis): Detecting elevated levels of aggression.

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based on blizzards commentary(too few, no settlements) on the matter and sources of lore. they didnt go to alliance territory :smile:

its true he no longer is. but i believe and its heavily implied, right down to the district the sunreavers controlled as well as aethas’ council position, that some elves did prioritize rebuilding dalaran over their own homeland. but they came back as blood elves. i dont think anyone considers aethas a powerful mage in the league of rommath or jaina. hes just a human bootlicker who his people picked to represent them on the council and used his position to reach out to his people who had cut ties to recruit more powerful magisters for the kirin tors campaign into northrend

thats when vereesa who was able to provide a home for the ex farstriders after it was rebuilt who did not want to join the horde prior to wrath, used them to form her SC because she didnt trust the magisters coming back. she even managed to attract a few magister types

none of these elves were in SW as you fanfiction. if they were there would be an elven district in SW. thats why you only have literally 2 standing around in SW. they are so few and spread out they dont need a district. theyve already assimilated

(Commentary): Considering Dalaran was Alliance friendly in Vanilla, I think they might have.

(Caution): You may wish to avoid using that word. Your speculation is very much so sounding like fanfiction itself. Given the many facts I have provided, with sources, and your continued incorrect statements, proven incorrect by my sources, I think you might find it logical to restructure your perspective on these matters. At the very least, you may wish to consider stepping away from the computer for a bit. Why not read a book? Take a shower or bath? Treat yourself to a nice tasty snack or favorite meal. Try to calm down and return to the discussion with less emotional investment, and a more calm perspective.

(Commentary): At the very least, I would ask that you not put words into my mouth. I did not, ‘fanfiction,’ the elves being in SW. I stated we have never seen a source for where Dalaran’s refugee population was after it had been evacuated. Stormwind seems unlikely since a large population of Kirin Tor refugees would’ve probably been relevant to Onyxia’s plots in the kingdom.

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and the high elf kingdom of quel’thalas was not officially horde yet. even in TBC they werent official yet. it was following the horde to northrend that would prove they were committed. you have to remember all of the drama of the dalaran community happened just before wrath. before that all you could see was the purple shield aethas and the elves that returned helped put up so they could rebuild undisturbed

(Commentary): It’s important to keep in mind that there weren’t Blood Elves in Dalaran prior to the events in Northrend. As I recall from Day of the Dragon (or was it Night? One of them), Blood Elves were already viewed with suspicion for their mana vampiristic practices, and Vereesa had her twin sons kidnapped by her Blood Elf cousin, who intended to drain them of magic. It doesn’t sound like Blood Elves were in Dalaran at that time.

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Void elves study the Void. The Void teaches that are many possibilities for the future and that you must carve your own path based on your choices instead of pursuing a single minded vision of the future, like the Light does.
With that in mind, the race being an unpredictable misshap that resulted in a few outcasts with nowhere to go and in need of therapy joining one of the most powerful and influential political powers in the world, proving their worth in battle and pursuing these uncertain possibilities of a future for themselves. The point of the Velves having no clear goal as a race is because our whole thing is “do whatever suits your desires, the possibilities are endless”. We’re literal wildcards.
Umbric, in particular, desires to take Silvermoon for the Alliance. That’s cool, but you don’t see Alleria talking much about it. It’s all about individual desire and your own journey.

It’s like watching Lucifer on Netflix, but purple

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not true. aethas was shown in shadows of the sun shorty story(i think) to have been sending letters to lorthemar about the situation in northrend and wanted to bolster the kirin tor numbers by reestablishing relations with quel’thalas. which he kept disregarding until aethas had to appear in silvermoon himself. this was before wrath

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Void Elves are an abomination but if you want to have fun you are like the goth kids at school that are weird and everyone made fun of, now use what I just said as your strength and you will be good to go.

So Arthas was the good guy there eh?

(Commentary): You yourself just stated Aethas’ contact with Quel’Thalas only began after the move… That said, I believe there was a comic where he was present to send it in the sky and was already a member of the Council. That said, there really isn’t a time frame for when this promotion happened, or even why. It simply is.

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I’d just be happy if they add decent skin and hair color options for void elves, including white and pure black as well as Alleria looks/skin tones/hair styles. Maybe even add some blue tattoos as an option with a no eye glow for those people, add some lore to tie it together with Vareesa being involved. Void elves are high elves, they just aren’t the wood elf like silver covenant that a lot of alliance high elf fans would like, It’s just more of a ideology over a race at that point. They are more closely linked to Night elves just without druid magic. adding blue eyes to blood elves in shadowlands is just gonna agitate these people even further since it’s been datamined.

People keep talking about number or how few there are, the numbers of a race really doesn’t matter anymore considering void elves exist as an allied race with as few of numbers as they have as well as Lightforged draenei and mag’har orcs which I can’t imagine TOO many of them made it out probably about a small group or a city of them. Also, Highmountain tauren that would actually want to fight the alliance. Most, I’d assume only went horde because of the tauren and mostly because of baine and defeating Uul’gyneth. Most of them are just still in highmountain not really worrying about any of that.

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well we can just ignore the obvious implications and assume the SC are the elves credited by jaina herself in the damn game as helping humans discover magic and being productive citizens for thousands of years. and the SC chose aethas as the only high elven council member. oh no wait the elves jaina recognized were the ones that make up the core of the sunreavers

the line for the dalaran community goes straight from kael to aethas and the sunreavers. sure some preferred to remain neutral after silvermoon joined the horde prior to wraith and even a smaller few joined vereesas SC. flash forward to present day the SC dont even have their own little corner in dalaran anymore. it was renamed and given to the worgen :smile:

Being straight, I feel like this is a problem. I, myself, never try to insert anything of myself into a character. You will always find little quirks or something that might make you laugh because there’s some kind of similarity. But to actively seek it would be bad juju.

In RP, there’s always a separation of self from character, and I think that’s important. I am a 29 year old fat Italian from NY. I am not a woman in any sense of the word, nor do I possesses long ears, an affinity for magic, or am named Shadina or any combination of the letters. I made Shadina to act as her guiding hand because I view her as her own separate “entity”. That’s how I approach all characters and would suggest other people do the same because then it makes sense and you can develop attachments to other characters that you normally wouldn’t.

Oh yes, I love them. I write / RP them on RP realms and I enjoy leveling them in general. There’s something incredibly fun to me about an elf dealing with one of the darkest, all consuming cosmic forces and being morphed by it within our little universe.

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So are pandarens and now so are you forsaken. With alot of you dead and without Sylvanas Valkyr your a dying race.