Uhh…other than 2 people everyone I know in my real life is a Horde player and fan.
They pick more fights within themselves and with us, their Alliance friends more than anyone I’ve seen over silly things like “How dare you insult the Horde tattoo”.
Kittredge is right. So far this thread is pretty tame. But some of the threads, almost always started by Alliance players are just as accusatory as he is saying.
Some people do seem to forget that this is just a game.
Don’t compare a tragedy to a genocide. Use a neutral channel to smuggle a weapon that turns a neutral port into a crater and there will be blowback. I don’t agree with what Jaina did, but it’s not comparable.
She lost everything and a small faction of Mages within a city got kicked out, those who fought back were killed or imprisoned.
My logic is fine. Your reading comprehension on the other hand.
My point wasn’t that Horde don’t pick fights, they certainly do. My point was about this specific issue.
It’s an irrelevant statement because it has nothing to do with the content of my posts. It’s easy to put people in certain categories and ignore them because you put them in that category.
I see both. I will ignore either side trying to start a fight. Let’s not drag other thread drama in this thread. I am simply trying to understand the lore.
Well, that’s completely subjective. Again, I never said that wasn’t a possibility. I was talking about what I see on these forums, as I very clearly stated.
If you feel the need to make another confused reply, please give it a little more thought beforehand.
Genocide would mean she tried to kill all Blood Elves or the entire city of Silvermoon. She didn’t. She removed all Horde from a neutral magical city after an actual genocide occurred with ties to the elves in that city.
I did the scenario on both sides. The Alliance and Jaina only killed elves who fought back, The Horde player straight up espionage’d their way to a bombing.
We all know it’s a videogame. That doesn’t mean we cannot discuss the plot.
It’s important I point out three additional things:
1: The Horde were swimming toward the Alliance, not away. There were other boats and this wasn’t far from shore.
2: The Alliance officers were possessed by Sha. Even in killing those Orcs, it would not really have been their fault.
3: The order was given, but the action was not taken without question. Nathanos burned down civilians after being told once. The Alliance needed to be given a reason.
So in your attempt to frame them as equal, you’ve actually proven that even when possessed by literal hate ghosts, Alliance soldiers remain morally superior to Horde soldiers.
No matter how hard the “Alliance are just as bad” crowd try to argue it, Horde are monsters and Alliance are not. A physical incarnation of negative emotions cannot make Alliance as bad as Horde (Possibly excluding Tauren) just naturally are. That’s a fact.
Jaina didn’t kill any innocents there, she teleported them to the violet hold, that’s what she’s doing when she is walking around. This was after she told Aethas to leave when she found the sunreavers (a political organization) used Dalaran to get a superweapon to a madman who just used a mana bomb with the focusing Iris. A sunreaver also helped build the mana bomb that destroyed Theramore. There was no genocide.
Having horde influence in the city after the Sunreavers used Dalaran to get Garrosh another superweapon was not going to happen. If the sunreavers didn’t betray her she was fine with them being there, as seen when Varian asked her to remove them from Dalaran and she refused.
Yeah most Blood Elf enthusiasts ignore that she refused the leader of the Alliance but only remember that she took out her anger once she found her neutral city was used for Horde