Okay so ofc i didnt expect Saurfang to survive against Sylvanas. He was BY FAR my favorite character and his death got me thinking; who is actually left of the legendary horde warriors? There are mostly orcs, but still.
Orgrim Doomhammer, Garrosh & Grom Hellscream, Blackhand, Thrall before he became a shammy, General Nazgrim, Cairne Bloodhoof, Dranosh, Broxigar and last but not least Varok Saurfang. All awesome warriors respected ( to a degree) by others.
I am probably missing someone, but who are left for us warriors of the horde to be proud of and look up to ? Eitrigg? He needs some serious character development firstā¦
And yes of course there are other races in wow that deserves attention, and new heroes will most likely replace the old ones, it just doesnt seem like anyone to idolize the same way after the High Overlord got his warriors death.
(English isnt my first language so im sorry for any errors)
Dead or alive, at least you HAVE iconic Horde Warriors to look up to. Can you name any iconic Horde or Alliance Warlocks? Can you name any Warlock to have ever appeared in a story event who isnāt Gulādan?
Saurfangās funeral was attended by the combined leadership of the Horde and Alliance. He died a heroās death. Enjoy it, thatās far more than some classes have.
Did you miss the entire book about him, him helping command the Argent Crusade in ZulāDrak, the quest chain with him and his āturns out not deadā son Ariok in Burning Steppes, his becoming one of the champions in Skyhold, him carrying Stromkar, him establishing the connection between Azeroth and alternate Draenor to recruit the Magāhar (I.E. the reason you can have your precious brown skin).
Nope, i didnt miss any of that. I still would not put him on the same shelf as the others i mentioned. He could absolutely get there but as of now i wouldnt say he is. Disagreeing with that is completely understandable tho
So a long list of accomplishments, a longer story, more fleshed out story, more experience and years of fighting, but somehow he doesnāt make it on the same shelf as some of those you mentioned.
Thrallās not even a warrior. His brief stint pre-shamanism encompasses some gladiatorial fights in his pre-pubescent and early teenage years. I.E., jack all. Blackhand was a brute and a fool that was used like a puppet and almost destroyed the horde before the Alliance got a chance to do it and was executed by his own #2.
Nazgrim has a significantly lower amount of accomplishments and far less experience. The only reason anyone even gives a damn is he kept popping up as a questgiver and āma honourā
I never really enjoyed the character at all. He was given some good voice lines and a good voice actor in SoO and ever since people bring him up incessantly. Prior he was simply a questgiver that kept on giving.
A list of characters that either arenāt faction members, arenāt iconic, arenāt even Warlocks, or are the much despised Willfred the Incompetent. Iām not saying Warlock NPCs donāt exist. Iām saying theyāre either non-aligned, outright hostile, or incredibly minor. You donāt see any that are loyal faction members of significance.
Thereās a reason they had to dig up the Council of the Black Harvest and introduce them as more than names in a lore book to have champions for the Legion class hall. There was literally no one else to use.
Mediev and Meryl are Mages, not Warlocks. Schlubs like Fizzle and Neeru are not important lore characters. Thereās a difference between āestablished characters who have appeared in-gameā and āa name in an optional lore book from a single class-specific quest lineā that should be obvious. Andā¦
No. Iām not going to play your games. Youāre trying to pull me into a swamp of technicalities because you know my point stands. So bugger off with your split line quotes like itās 1997 and youāre picking apart a Usenet post.
Medhiv was a mage. heās classified as a warlock when he was possessed by Sargeras, summoning demons, opening the dark portal, etc. After that, heās āsomething else, something moreā. So no, heās not just a mage, he was both.
Meryl, in the comics and in Legion, was shown to be using specific fire spells that are warlock in nature. Again, heās not technically classified as a mage or a warlock, but rather, an āincredibly powerful magic userā. Heās used both warlock and mage spells. Heās both.
Fizzle killed a pretty significant number of players throughout his time pre-Cata. Think heās at least worth a mention.
Neeru is part of a quest chain and was an interesting character. Again, whether or not heās worth mentioning is subjective.
Yes, in a discussion with no pre-defined parameters based entirely on a subjective subject matter, the parameters should be obvious. Duh.
Itās not technicalities. You literally made no basis for anything but,
Which has no guidelines. Iconic is literally a subjective matter. You Then backpedaled and started to try and establish guidelines or bars to qualify.
Be more clear, or be willing to concede a point, at least partly.
