It’s not entitlement, it’s campaigning/fighting for a preferred feature. The game’s better if everyone can give input and the best ideas win out
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- I don’t cheat statistics, and I doubt anyone would have to because majority of people want it.
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Get a job, you have way too much time on your hands if you like wasting it spamming chat…
while this is hyperbole i can understand the base of feeling like that.
It also counts pvp.
Its not a bad look at numbers
Just because you want the feature and the forums are vocal doesn’t mean that it’s only a tiny number of elitists that don’t want it. People have been arguing since april that this side or the other has the majority and the only thing that is for certain is that there clearly isn’t a consensus. It’s not a sound argument.
lets be clear, its perfectly fine to want your voice heard!! but this thread is full of people trying to abuse and stop someone with a different veiwpoint who wants their voice heard as well.
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I dont wish to stop anyone. As it stands, RDF isn’t going to be in wrath. All I want is to try and change that. Im not here to fight large scale battles for what I believe is right, I merely wish to advocate for it.
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commendable.
Thank you.
I don’t resort to insulting people or trolling them for the sake of it either.
I just want to understand what the anti RDF’ers ACTUALLY think the issue is mostly. There are many opinions.
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What’s been so positive…as a DPS on a mega server I can get a group usually 2 or 3 nights a week if I really work at it. If I am really working at it then those nights are otherwise wasted and I should have just sat in discord and had beers with the guild. In these groups, no one says anything. Even in the 2SR or MS>OS raids I have been doing, the only communication is specific strats and loot. I don’t ever see the same people twice that I group or raid with.
I can understand that it’s hyperbolic because you don’t agree with it and that’s fair.
That’s because until the idiot in the interview said it wasn’t going to be in, most people assumed it would be in lol.
This is what I get from most anti-RDF players. They want me to shut up or go to retail. Sadly for them I will do neither.
I don’t understand it either, most of the arguments I get are for things that don’t even exist in TBCC now without RDF.
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I belive you’ll find most rdfer feel like the system in its wotlk incarnation is required to use, and even if you were willing to forgoe the efficiency and bonuses you wouldnt find other people who were also willing. and generally the many opinions i think you’ll find is each persons own anecdotal base at which they believe rdf will stop being a compulsory system and start really being the “option” that is kinda thrown up in our faces on a daily basis.
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I chose not to play on a megaserver and often I can find a place as a DPS without too much fuss. Our community is small, only around 2000 people on Alliance but we mostly add one another and stay in touch making it easy to get groups going, especially to do a lot of content in one night which would be impossible with cross server LFD. During all those runs I get to know people and recurring characters organically and I really enjoy it.
April was when they did the interview you’re talking about
so this kind of dimunization of peoples concerns is both a strawman based on your personal anecdote, and also not helpful. many people have articulated in many ways including blizzard that a pillar of community interaction is lost when a system automates group finding.
cross-server RDF completely makes it easy to do a lot of content in one night. It was a tool that made the game casual friendly. I don’t want the game to feel like a second job or like going to the DMV. I want to get in and smash some dungeons and have a good time with other people. Instead the current system I would rather just sit in Shat and read the forums.
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To be honest, I have an entire guild to pull from to run heroics with, I would simply invite everyone and queue up and chain run heroics from RDF.
On the occasion I might just queue up. But that’s because im a healer and could have a faster queue.
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Its so confusing that they state this fear constantly while at the same time fighting off the notion that their preference isn’t shared by a majority of players. As they said, Blizzard already made a choice so coming out and admitting its a niche interest wouldn’t hurt their case at all, so no idea why they insist on being contradictory.
More so, as admitted by more than one pro-RDF advocate, they themselves would make use of the tool if it were available, thus proving even they dont support manual grouping enough to make do without the convenience of the tool. Whatever preference they have isn’t enough to overcome ease but is somehow ‘better’. So confusing.
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It would kill the servers community and the need to get to know people to be able to do those things. It removes almost all incentives to continue as a good group because everyone becomes replaceable instantly with faceless bodies from other servers.
I don’t need to speculate as to this because we’ve had over a decade of retail with this system and it was and is bad. Even retail has moved away from LFD.
should it be easy to do a lot of content in one night? why?
I play the game casually. I dont do GDKPS. most of the time i spend on the game is on alts putting together pug runs for my friends. It makes the game convenient sure, and increases efficiency accross the board.
THis is why i dont want rdf and i dont currently do GDKPS.
so at some point your veiws are incompatable with other’s and unfortunately blizzard has to make the game for a target audience while retaining as much fringe concidental engagement as possible. it seems like there may be better games for you given what blizzard states their design intention is.
i dont want to do this tho, if i wanted this id play FFXIV. and if blizz decided this was the game they wanted, i probably wouldnt play it. My point is not that theyre right or wrong to cater to either of us, but only that they did in fact need to make a choice one way or another.
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