Il'gynoth was the worst thing added to WoW

Completely random, but it needed to be said. How oh how is a raid boss from 100 years ago relevant you might ask? Well Il’gynoth is dead and has been but somehow, SOMEHOW, people are still making inane click bait speculation videos to this day about the random nonsense dialogue he spewed. He has been a curse and his words still haunt us to this day. If you’re one of these “content creators” and reading this - Let him rest please.

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First time being part of a fandom?

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Maybe there’s a lot of click bait content around Old Gods because they were really well done besides their disappointing kill offs? A lot of the things they say are incredibly fun to link into the future even if they are probably overlooked by the current writers to this day.

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dawg, i dont know why algorithms keep serving me deltarune content, but jesus christ some of the theories these people come up with make scientologists look sane and rational

Ol’ Illy predicted the blocking of the Strait of Hormuz; delve into the cryptic details on my InstaFaceTokTube page! Like & subscribe, and don’t forget to ring that bell! :bell:

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I’m always rolling my eyes in annoyance when I see another one of those “What if Il’gynoth was actually talking about [insert current plot point]?” topics in the forums or on reddit. It’s getting really old.

Alot of people really enjoy theorycrafting in warcraft. The games story is told in fractals so you have to go back and revisit things in order to effectively do that. But I will agree to some extent i prefer nzoths whispers :wink:

C’thun said my friends will abandon me and lo and behold nobody I played wow with in 05 plays now.

:exploding_head:

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It’s Alleria now who is speculated to usher in their coming

The golden one claims a vacant throne.

The Crown of Light will bring only darkness.

Self awareness level 0

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Its a thing that people really like to infer meaning out of nothing/vague references. It makes them feel more clever than they actually are.

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ilgynoth whispers are blizzard’s “break glass in case of sub drop”

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And then the creator sees it, makes something of it, and pretends they were right all along

It’s free ideas

“A presence… Something new, yet… Familiar. Yes…”

Il’gynoth predicted OP would make this post.

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Personally, I found the old gods lacked an understanding of what Lovecraftian horror is all about. Ulduar, my favorite WOW raid, had a lot of buildup to YogSaron, but what does that guy actually SAY? “MADNESS WILL CONSUME YOU!”

They understood the cliffnotes version of Lovecraft. “Monsters so scary they make you go crazy”. There’s more to that though. A lovecraftian god doesn’t call it “madness”. To them, their thoughts are entirely sane, by their completely alien form of reasoning. We’re so simplistic by comparison we can’t comprehend their ur-logic, and it’s that inability to comprehend them that drives us to madness. It’d be like feeding an ant the general theory of relativity. Their moral code would also be entirely alien to us, “blue and orange morality”. Think of the fae, creatures who might kill you as soon as look at you, with a moral code obsessed with maximizing fun and a heavy emphasis on identity. Yeah sure, your face is now the bark of a tree, but you “agreed” to those rules when the “game” began.

This is to say nothing of the unreliable narrator aspect of some of the best Lovecraft stories, where by the end you really have no idea how much of that story actually happened and how much was a mad hallucination by the main character. The Rats in the Walls in particular leaves you with the unsettling feeling that the main character may have just killed a bunch of innocent people at the end of this.

These “old gods” COULD become that though. A modern interpretation could do away with the simplified Cliffnotes version screaming about you losing your mind or your heart exploding, and actually delve into the real Lovecraftian horror. Maybe N’Zoth, for example, that big end boss? We believed what we WANTED to believe, that the old god drove us to it, but by the end all of that was a lie, and we hallucinated the final confrontation entirely. We are STILL seeing those visions. How many corpses have we rendered ourselves unable to see? How many citizens lay unburied in the streets? Is THAT the smell that doesn’t ever seem to fade away?

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“This is definitely about Pelagos”
“It surely is about Calia”
“It might be Turalyon”
“Could be Anduin”
.. and it goes on and on.

All of this just sounds like you aren’t particularly interested in the lore of the game, which is fine. But folks who are interested in the game’s lore is going to go through over and over again the treasure trove of information that Il’gynoth provided us with - with all of the implications that each potential conclusion comes to.

If you aren’t interested in the story that’s fine, but don’t complain about story-related characters if all you can realistically say in good faith is “Oh-kay… not for me, kai-bye!” Just ignore things that aren’t for you.

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That was kinda the point of these vague quotes from creatures like the Old Gods and their minions.

They are designed to be vague enough such that Blizzard can pull something out of their butts years later and use those quotes as reference material.

My personal favourite of a vague but interesting quote is from Nhallish from Shadowmoon Burial Grounds.

Where upon his death he says:

“You are just maggots! Swarming to the corpse of a dying God!”

Given what happens in Legion and BFA, I Like to think the “dying god” he is referring to is Azeroth and Azerite was the “corpse” that we were swarming to.

it’s funny because all of il’gynoth’s prophecies have come true but content creators act like they haven’t

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