If you're not going to make a solo queue, Ashenvale needs to go to Exalted

[Zuljuibiul-living-flame]

@Silika-pagle

should only be done by diehards PVPers

I agree that 21,000 rep through only WSG games is fair for epic bracers at 40, 50, and at 60 with a pair of very powerful epic pants.

But WSG isn’t difficult, the players are difficult. And not everyone shares an equal challenge. There are people who probably got 7k-10k rep in 1 day winning in 5-7 minutes.
A win is 205 rep, a loss is 1 mark and you need 3 marks for 100 rep. The grind for solo ques is effectively 126,000 rep if they only hit premades.

@Deunan-atiesh

Oh man, yeah this does have scientifically studied correlations. Though there are a lot of people who use this as cover, some I deal with regularly.

Best I can describe is the “I’m not mean, I’m just brutally honest” before they just start insulting you.

(not attributing this to partyrock, just as a general statement)

Very true, you have to watch yourself out there. I think people these days struggle more to find an identity and like I said with the introvert thing information gets condensed down into a label and people can pretend they don’t love labels, but the absolutely love labels.

@Leoni-suramar

I’d be curious to read that study.

I can’t !#$@#% remember the name of that !@#!@ !@$#@#%% study!

@Deunan-atiesh

The wording for the testing was “lied less” which is different than just “more honest” makes it sound.

Fair distinction, I’ll take it.

@Fiendw-lone-wolf

How premade is too premade? in original classic, a geared warrior (or fc) with a priest healer vs 10 complete randoms would make the randoms lose almost every game.

“man if we could have CC’d that priest we might have won”
“yup, triple priest and 5hunter group, even if we try to cc the priest they have 2 dispels and the hunters kill 3 of us before we can react”

I’m not disagreeing with you, but there is definitely a middle ground we aren’t currently hitting I feel. I grinded about 2k HKs and 20,000 honor before getting tired of premades.

@Peeposlam-whitemane

Faces that match the opinion.

You’re already getting mount gold at level 25 just by questing. You wanna talk about gimmies, people will have epic mount gold at level 40 without even buying it because they made quest rewards retail-level of inflated

I shamelessly think this should be season of free epic items
gnomer should have multiple mount drops (not 100% chance)
We have retail
we did vanilla wow
we did HK wow
I personally do not see the reward in grinding the same content AGAIN. I joined here because the new runes and raids seemed to be the focus.

I used to love in classic when they would spin up test realms and you started at level 60 in full tier 2 so you just got to play the game. (not saying we go that far here, I’m having fun getting tailoring, engi, skinning, mining x 2, and leather working to 150)

[Rur-lone-wolf]

Stay mad and bracerless. You don’t deserve them. I solo queue’d to exalted and it wasn’t that bad tbh.

[Peeposlam-whitemane]

Lone wolf alliance is so lopsided you can afford to do that even though I’m sure you’re full of it.

Literally ezmode flag carrier and practically impossible to kill because you’ve got pallies AND priests.

You dont have to actually have a frontal lobe to accomplish what you’re claiming.

[Rur-lone-wolf]

This guy thinks BG queues are server based lol

[Calenor-westfall]

@Meliana-bleeding-hollow

I don’t give two shlts about WSG. It’s a buggy broken map that’s been trash for decades.

They still haven’t fixed safespotting. At least not totally as my final match last night showed me.

[Byyp-ashkandi]

@Partyrock-skull-rock

I accept your concession

You win again!

[Peeposlam-whitemane]

You have much more alliance participation so solo queue’ing esp as a druid just doesn’t exist. You’ll always have groups even if they aren’t “sweaty”

IQ matches parse - padded by other people, but still a tard.

[Zalika-faerlina]

could just join the one of many premades taking just about anyone with a pulse

[Lazmanx-whitemane]

They say you can’t join unless you’re a hunter, which is an obvious and observable lie.

It’s all endless cope. They’ll be still talking about this at 60

[Nöcht-ashkandi]

Deal. You can now farm rep to exalted in Ashenvale, but the epic items now require 100 wsg marks each on top of their gold costs to purchase.

A pleasure doing business with you.

[Kayberz-whitemane]

@Peeposlam-whitemane

You have much more alliance participation so solo queue’ing esp as a druid just doesn’t exist. You’ll always have groups even if they aren’t “sweaty”

Wtf does this even mean?

@Peeposlam-whitemane

You’re already getting mount gold at level 25 just by questing. You wanna talk about gimmies, people will have epic mount gold at level 40 without even buying it because they made quest rewards retail-level of inflated

What does any of this have to do with making getting exalted with WSG easier than it already is?

Is your argument “blizzard is already giving us a bunch of stuff easily, so they should do it for everything”?
Because If that’s the case, I think you should familiarize yourself with the meaning of the phrase " give them an inch and they ask for a mile"

Sounds like you’re just a loser that needs an excuse for why people are more accomplished than you at any particular thing
“Easy mode race, easy mode server, easy mode faction, easy mode class, everything everyone else is doing is easy mode, unlike me”
People have and are grinding to exalted the hard way by actually playing WSG for at least 21000 rep, but according to you it is just them"wasting their time"
Yet you want to make getting exalted more easy for yourself for some reason without having to do what everyone else had to to

The hypocrisy is rich

[Baldnbrash-wild-growth]

@Partyrock-skull-rock

Well, add hominem is a very common deflection. If you have any substantive arguments though I’d love to hear them. Until then, I accept your concession.

Here’s one: You regularly cry ad hominem when people say something negative about you when they’re not using it as an argument. Argumentum ad hominem is when someone makes an attack on character in place of an argument. If someone isn’t bothering arguing with you in the first place, you don’t “win by concession,” you just are having your abrasive nature being pointed out by people that don’t even care to argue because you come off as having your head stuck in the sand.

There’s my substantive argument, and it would still be just as substantive if I ended this message with personal attacks on your character. I’d potentially look like more of a jerk, depending on what the court of public opinion decided, but it wouldn’t invalidate my argument.

If you’re going to claim argumentum ad hominem and try to claim a victory by concession in an argument that some rando who calls you out on your behavior that doesn’t give a damn about arguing with you, and never suggested they were trying to argue anything but you being abrasive as hell in the first place, you may want to make sure you actually understand what “argumentum ad hominem” is and isn’t.

[Byyp-ashkandi]

@Baldnbrash-wild-growth

If you’re going to claim argumentum ad hominem and try to claim a victory

Ohhhh. He didn’t win yet

[Peeposlam-whitemane]

you inserted so much stuff not said here to prove nothing at all.

you didnt critically think that most players just exploited ashenvale the first weeks en masse and now those who didnt cheat should spend weeks of in game time losing over and over to premades because ashenvale wasn’t playtested, and aggrend doesn’t pvp so he doesn’t know how bad it really is.

scuffed BG vs bigger scuffed BG. It’s all the same. Nothing is invalidated at all.

[Kayberz-whitemane]

What exactly are you missing out on not being exalted right now?

Why do you think you’re entitled to be exalted with a battleground reputation without actually playing that battleground?

Everyone who is exalted right now had to play WSG from revered to get there

If you want to be exalted, then do the work, blizzard already made it extremely easy to get to revered. How much more do you want blizzard to baby you?

[Rhist-wild-growth]

Why are you pretending that running a 200-0 premade is somehow any more work than killing PvE bosses in Ashenvale?

[Kayberz-whitemane]

If you think it’s the same why don’t you go do it then?

[Rhist-wild-growth]

I do. Care to answer the question on what makes it harder?

[Kayberz-whitemane]

It’s not hard, which is why there shouldn’t be an issue having to do it if you want to be exalted

[Rhist-wild-growth]

So it’s the same but not the same. They both give the same rep but one stops at Revered, the other Exalted. For no other reason than “it should be”.

Nice.