If You're 2700+ IO and You're Listing 13s You Deserve to Deplete / Fail

Yes, not to you

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Charcuterie is just an adult lunchable.

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Im on mobile so cant tell sometimes who replies to who lol

No worries

Now I wanna see if I can get a 13 listed at like 2k io

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a take everyone can agree with

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Resorting to personal attacks? Predictable.

Why are you even pugging 13s.

Because I enjoy the challenge.

There is no ingame benefit to pushing 13-14s. If the title is the goal, 15-16 keys are the threshold (and that’s likely to shift as item levels continue to magnify).

I’m comfortable pushing my limits in that area.

take me. i have no io score. the dungeon wont know what hit it.

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Honestly, if you’re doing 12s and 13s you gotta have almost full myth level gear, hopefully BIS. 626 heroes don’t stand a chance.

Why does anyone feel the need to tell others what to do with their key and their time? They pay the same sub to play the game.

I love how there’s an imaginary 13 wall now. Before it was 12. It will always be something

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Harsh but fair.

It’s similarly a waste of time to join +10 groups in which they’re 2200 or something because they +2 Mists. That’s a brick waiting to happen.

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You could not apply and go about your day? Or even better, list your OWN 13 key. That’ll stick it to the 2.7k noobs. You’ll show em. Trust

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And I was dragged into a 10 today by my guild, and I was only 1700 io

I thought they were going to be nice and run a 6 or 7. So mean of them.

:dracthyr_cry_animated:

it’s messed up that they forced you to join. good luck!

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I think the problem is expecting any measure of success from pugging a high-level key in general, regardless of the rating. Something like a +13 seems squarely within the domain of premade territory to me.

I see twitch streamers that have no business anywhere near a +12 or higher timing +13s and +14s while being completely carried by mythic raiders. I believe.

Don’t join it
duh

If it’s their key, and YOU joined, instead of complaining, just quit.

Someone must learn somewhere, and how they decide to learn it’s up to them, not you.

How about lowering your ego first? You’re the perfect example of someone who thinks the world owes them something. Get your feet back on the ground—you’re not special. You’re just another childish, arrogant fool.

Instead of blaming others for mistakes in a +13 key, maybe consider that not everyone is playing to your personal standard. Expecting people below 2850 to play perfectly in a +13 is unrealistic, especially if you’re only there to criticize. If you’re tired of running with others at that level, find a group that meets your standards or push higher keys yourself.

TL;DR: If you’re aiming for perfection, maybe a +13 isn’t the place to demand it.

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