Yeah, and the timer expiring and leaving is a lot different than someone leaving after name calling or being toxic after 10 minutes in and 1 wipe.
You are making a problem that doesn’t exist. If you don’t make a habit out of leaving, and you’re peaceful and friendly, then you have nothing to worry about. That is exactly my point.
If you leave key after key before the timer expires, then you deserve to be suspended.
Err on the side of caution.
Having anxiety isn’t reason to assume you now can’t do a basic function that Blizzard themselves said is reasonable and expected. You are looking at someone getting pulled over for drunk driving then doom saying if you drift a little you are going to get charged with a DUI.
I leave keys I know wont time when I want crests and getting 5 crests from untimed is not worth staying to me. You can tell if you have 10 min left and still 2 bosses to go you wont time it. I don’t usually stay until timer officially hits 0, though if it “ended” at 0 and kicked everyone out at that point I would.
Thank god i dont involve myself with this toxic mythic plus community… try listing your intention to leave at timer end with the application and see how many invites you can get?
Facts, they literally started that they understand that people leave for various reasons. If you are not leaving very frequently with malicious intent then just keep on carrying on.
You just did by willingly coming into a M+ thread.
I think people are vastly, vastly overestimating how often individuals leave keys.
Leavers Georg’s absolutely exist and they deserve to be banhammered, but I’d be willing to bet that the vast, vast majority of leavers leave pretty infrequently. Blizzard are never going to ding people for leaving like one key in every fifty and it’s not going to feel any less sucky when you lowroll being that one in fifty.
If that is your behavior then I guess you take the risk of being reported. Wanting something to end because you don’t want to be there is a weird stance and suggestion though. Blizzard is suspending people who habitually waste other peoples time and you’re suggesting a way to ensure the time is wasted for everyone.
Sounds like you don’t even attempt to communicate with your group at all. No, “hey guys, this isn’t going to time, can we just call the key here so we can do something else?” or anything.
It’s not a new rule, and you won’t get punished for leaving an M+. What WoWhead didn’t report on was how this was an extreme fringe of the community who, after investigation, were engaging in griefing.
No i’m suggesting if I am in a bad group, they can’t hold me hostage past the timer. I obviously rather time it and finish it sooner before the timer ends. But if the group turns out to be bad, and it wont time, I at least want to know when I can safely bail from it.
Were you suspended?
If no, continue with your previous pattern of behavior.
We literally just went over this. You admit to having high anxiety, but you need to learn to think rationally.
Then learn to communicate. I am a tank main and I’ve told groups that don’t kick or use cooldowns that I am going to leave if they don’t start helping the group and themselves. 9 out of 10 times people start paying more attention. I just say “guys, I’m not having fun and I need help/or the healer needs help by you using your defensives” etc. As long as you’re friendly and communicating, you won’t be suspended. You’re literally worrying about nothing and an issue that can be prevented.
I don’t talk in groups because in the social contract you aren’t allowed to tell others how to play or criticize their game play. I never say anything to anyone. If they’re bad, I just leave without a word.
There’s a difference from criticizing and giving feedback from flaming and raging.
no, i don’t. all my runs are completion only.
It does say you can’t talk badly. I seen people got in trouble for saying someone’s DPS was bad. How do you put it nicely if the group doesn’t have the DPS? Or healer can’t heal enough? Or tank is too squishy? People are so soft these days I learned when social contract went into play how to not talk lol
It isn’t criticizing to ask for help or to tell others you’re not having fun… if you can’t ask your group to disband because a key is doomed, then you run the risk of 1 of those 4 people reporting you. That’s that.
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Where in these suggestions am I calling anyone bad??
What does this have to do with what I said? Not all people who want to complete have the same idea of what that means.
You’ve “seen” it? I guarantee anyone who did get actioned did much more than just state “your dps is bad”.