If we cant agree of what classic+ should be how can blizzard figure it out?

WoW Classic Season of Discovery
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1Outside of the new designs/raids new world content not saing all but most People when talking about Is what in content should be are Vague at most.

2 wat are Cough Cough ok/ Tasteful Changes Class or otherwise What’s too much what’s not enough ? Are sosososososo Different the wow Player please Cant agree so How can blizzard ?

3 Who is blizzard Making Classic + for People that like Vanilla tbc wrath cata mop ? Or a combination ?

4 Let’s pretend Blizzard makes Classic + is it going to please everyone NO But let’s pretend it’s amazing Does it matter If we don’t give it a chance ?

The Problem is so many people Have it in their minds Classic + is and If It doesn’t fit that vision FOR then They won’t try it No matter how good it is.

5 OK Fundamentally IS SOD A FOM OF CLASSIC + YES now is sod good yes at lest i thek so Does that means for everyone NO Does that?
Means perfect NO But for a first attempt it’s a solid try.

6 sod is a bata test yes did Is they try a lot of things that players have been asking for years yes did that all hit no but That doesn’t mean sod Wasn’t fun.

Not all no But name one version of wow Or any game That every single part was fun It doesn’t exist Is plain and Simple Whether it be mario 3 or zelda linked to the past Is great games yes But they all had their boring/bad Parts doesn’t mean they were bad games.

6 ok with sod Blizzard did something we’ve been asking them to do for Years They took risks This is always fascinating to me When you Take RISKS They’re not always going to land That’s why it’s called a Risk so You either take a risk Or you don’t And it may or me not land you can’t have it both ways.

7 Every single wow Player Thinks their version of Classic+ Is the right one and the one that blizzard should go with and Every
Single one of those versions are different from one another so where does blizzard start ?

Ok i no This post has been a bit long buds to the point I hear a lot of people saying classic + and

I’m on the opinion at this point.If blizzard did make it It didn’t matter how good it is Or isn’t people still wouldn’t try it

Mainly because if it doesn’t fit their vision of what that should be It’s going to be bad in their minds Weather be too far weather.Be not far enough.

Or they should just copy t wow Personally when I look at that I don’t think it’s far enough.And I think the class changes are boring sod Classes are much more interesting.

But that’s my opinion And honestly at this point I think the only thing that the wow Player base could probably agree on when it comes to classic+ Is that? We can agree on anything so if we cant How can blizzard possibly do a good classic + ? Thoughts ?

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Very good AI post brother

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This is dumb. Most people will try it because there’s not really another version of the game that suits them outside of private servers, which are not going to quite be the same experience.

AI would have better spelling and grammar.

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based off of lowest common denominator and whats feasible from a ROI standpoint. at the end of the day no one is 100% happy but something is better then nothing.

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Classic+ could take on many different forms.

I think broadly SoD missed the mark because it focused on end game.

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A well thought out classic plus, or a SoD redone minus the mistakes could help rejuvenate this franchise imo, more than any retail expansion could.

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54% of US citizens read and write at no greater than a 6th grade level. 21% of Americans are functionally illiterate.

The more you know :rainbow:

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There are plenty of people who would play for sure… more than retail is ever going to bring back. What will keep them playing… well that’s the thing I guess.

The problem isn’t really whether we all agree on what classic+ should be or not. It’s that the current team does not have the ability to create what you are describing. SoD big numbers were phase 1 and those that stuck around through Phase 2 remembering phase 1. Some blame incursions… some don’t know anyone that quit because of incursions but we all saw the nosedive that was phase 3. (with a smaller nosedive in phase 2). Then that just continued on.

To the point that it felt like phase 1 was made by people who were no longer on the team by launch and the idiot that runs/ran the team… well if you want a good classic+ he can’t be anywhere near it.

Anyway with a good team (hardest part) that actually could create something relative to phase 1 but it’s the entire experience 1 to 60 and endgame… and the PvP side of things addressed. I don’t think people would care what they had or hadn’t agreed on previously. They would just be playing.

On another note…

Outside of that Blizzard should just expect to see numbers continue down. Announcing anything that is mid/late 2025 or later… is not going to help that situation. Obviously Classic+ isn’t going to be a thing soon… so they need some kind of gap filler and the speculation/alleged leak relative to WoW Direct has zero of interest if that is actually all they have…

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Great developers have a clear vision and use player feedback to refine the rough edges as they go. If they need player feedback to define the vision to begin with they should not attempt to do a Classic+ and stick with fresh and re-releases

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I’ve already agreed on what Classic + should be. Idk why some people haven’t agreed yet

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Classic+ should focus on being a fantastic classical RPG set in the Warcraft universe that you can play with friends. The way to approach it is to design it like an RPG first and foremost.

Modern WoW ripped out the RPG and is just a looter shooter now.

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Preach! :handshake:

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Gen Z, zoomers, and below should have no say on classic.

It was made by boomers , let boomers have the say.

Once kids got involved the game went to the crapper.

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They were Gen X, not boomers.