Yeah, I’m not even gonna pretend like I know anything about PVE. Last time I took any of that seriously was in WoD when my rotation was actually interesting.
Nah for every class it matters.
I hope all you sub rogues out there are ready to swap to necrolord 
. I’m looking forward to farming out my renown again for the 4th time.
so you don’t put any effort into pve but it’s OK to callout people that don’t put effort into pvp? Ok, makes sense.
although, I am alittle flattered that your going over my playtime so indepth.
I imagine you had tears in your eyes when typing that.
since this post is in the context of PvP, and ur telling me covenants don’t matter, yeah.
You’re actively giving bad, and demonstrably incorrect information.
and even in PvE you aren’t 100% correct! The only time covenants dont matter, is on raid boss patchwerk style fights. thats it.
Just stop giving bad advice, leave my thread, and take your L bruv.
Venomous Wounds actually only works on Garrote, Rupture, and Internal Bleeding.
Word I didn’t know that, but it counts as a bleed for Doomblade though.
Rogue is not one of those classes. Heck even two of the classes you mention aren’t that way. NF and kyrian are both easily playable as a warrior, particularly if you spend any time PVPing or doing M+. Covenant representation is pretty spread out on holy priests, too.
Rogue covenant abilities are mediocre and OP is going to be switching every 2 weeks if he continues to chase the meta. None of our abilities dictate the way we play the way condemn or convoke does. Just pick one; otherwise you’re going spend the expansion very miserable.
They’re right. Your covenant doesn’t matter.
If you’re a hardstuck 1500 sub challenger player.
I play Venthyr for the Day 1 of SL on my Sub. I don’t complain and have fun with it.
True. Swapping covenants 4 times before the 1st patch seems like a rough way to play the expansion.
That’s funny, after accepting your premise that arena rating is all that matters for the entire playerbase it took me all of 2 minutes to look at 3v3 arena rankings and see 3 of 4 covenants represented across rogues with 3k+ rating. I guess somebody needs to tell some of them they’re playing the wrong covenant.
Wow, reading comprehension must be hard. Somehow covenants being important for arena got transformed into arena rating is all that matters for the entire playerbase.
Bravo.
If you knew what you were talking about you’d realize that Venthyr is what subtlety rogues are taking, and necrolord is what assassination rogues are taking.
I’m actually surprised that two of those rogues were playing kyrian, as that is objectively the worst covenant.
Granted, none of the rogue covenants are particularly good, so you CAN get away with playing any of them. That doesn’t mean they don’t matter, however.
Edit:
Funny thing actually, I decided to delve in a bit deeper to check out the outliers.
The necrolord subtlety rogues play assassination mainly.
The kyrian subtlety rogues haven’t queued arenas in a long time. They’re sitting rating. Their 3 alts, however, are all venthyr.
Nobody needs to tell them they’re playing the wrong covenant; they already know.
Ion was told this was going to be a big issue way before the delay and the eventual release.
Why not… I don’t know… Just play whatever your favorite covenant is?!
Seriously. I love Venthyr, the style, story, looks etc are just killing it. The flying mount they’re getting is easily the best, love the gargon dog mount…It’s got Kael’thas AND Garrosh.
I chose Venthyr before the xpac came out and I’m sticking with it, unless there’s some real BS ahead story wise; I feel like we’re getting ready to get the short end of the stick because the xpac started with us.
Because some people care about performance.
I was actually about to say the same thing. Every Kyrian rogue has been afk for months. This is the highest Kyrian rogue. He hasn’t played 3s since the end of Jan when rogue covenants didn’t matter at all. LITERALLY didn’t matter. Then he came back feb 20th went negative w/l in 2s and quit the game lol.
Same story for this guy, another kyrian rogue. https://www.arenamate.net/US/emerald-dream/Jaxdev/history#!3v3 . Rather than quitting this one rerolled completely to necro lord sin rogue.
Clearly, covenants matter if there are only 2 kyrian rogues, a few lazy NF rogues that didn’t wanna commit to a swap, and a sea of Venthyr sub rogues or Necro Sin rogues. If covenants didn’t matter wouldn’t there be more kyrian rogues?
if that was the case then why play a rogue? other classes are better? it’s kinda like fighting over sticks when people out there have guns.
Do you think it makes me happy that rogues are worse than other classes?
Just play another class 4head
My meaningful choice became very meaningful after a 50% nerf(Rotten). No 50% refund to the ash or the TG runs wasted.