I would almost be willing to bet some serious money that this isn’t coming.
It’s just like unlocking flying. Something people are annoyed over yet blizzard sticks their guns, no matter how bad the ship is sinking.
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in this case it makes sense, even before WoW came out we knew matter of factly that the majority of high elves (aka the race as a whole) goes by their new name…blood elves
each race added has had some distinction from baseline races
what’s the distinction for the high elves?
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an adjective
if you want to play a proper high elf, the option is there for you with the horde
if you want to play a high elf that looks just like a blood elf on alliance then youre out of luck but void elves are there for you
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i was asking those that demand it, honestly idc either way.
the racial lock thing seems mostly arbitrary anymore
oh i was speaking in generalities. i just wanted to point out the horde still has the lock on the real high/blood elves and probably always will. and void elves will never share skin tones with the high/blood elves
antis have been honest for a long time that they didnt want the alliance to have a thalassian elf. void elves are too close for comfort, but I am glad that many people believe it is not a high elf copy
it means that if you want to play a proper high elf, you have to play horde. as it should be
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No, they don’t. If want to know why go play Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne.
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Where’s my fair skinned blue eyed elves with Blonde hair? Last I check they hadn’t been added to the game yet. Lore wise the distinction is that there are elves that fit said description that stuck around the alliance. You can even find them in some taverns in classic if they honored what vanilla was.
And you know what if Ion really wants to double down on this there should be real high elf customization options in the Horde. All that being said lore wise the match up doesn’t make a whole ton of sense: orcs, undead and trolls all at one point either assaulted or leveled Silvermoon. The altar of storms was unlocked for Horde after they pillaged some elves and stole a runestone in wc2. I understand there’s been drama with the alliance since, but the BE should at least be a little more distrustful.
None of whom are actually a part of elven culture. They don’t hold the Sunwell sacred. They didn’t defend Quel’thalas when it came under attack. They left their race behind. The Quel’dorei of Quel’thalas renamed themselves to honor the fallen. The High Elves that exist today didn’t. They don’t care about the fallen. They’re not an elven race, not in the sense that the other races are major cultural groups, they’re an ethnic minority that exist within another major cultural group such as elves that live in Stormwind or Dalaran.
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If you can play a highborne night elf on horde side i think we should have the option to play high elf on alliance side.
yeah neither were golden eyes.
the sunwell being holy/arcane means lore wise they’re a mix of both
that’s not a distinction between the two groups, that’s merely saying that there some of X group within the alliance
but there have been pieces of each race that work closely with the opposite faction.
the undead didn’t, the mindless scourge led by a human of lordeon did…and then it’s allies chose to imprison Quel’thal’s rightful ruler and 15% of their race and condemn them to execution
they HAVE been, the alliance keeps deciding to do things against them at every turn
they almost joined the alliance during legion…and they they had innocent civilians massacred because they MIGHT be affiliated with someone they dislike
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Which was a bad response, as evidenced by the manner in which this discussion continues. I suspect if he had left his answer as something along the lines of “We understand some Alliance players want High Elves, but we have no plans to add them to the Alliance because we don’t consider there to be enough to differentiate them from Blood Elves,” rather than throwing in the dig about “If you want to play a fair-skinned Elf, the Horde is waiting for you,” the conversation would’ve remained far less,… let’s say “animated”,… on both sides.
Regardless of my own thoughts on High Elves, I think it odd to say that the “fair-skinned” Elf was the sole domain of the Horde, then say the “purple-skinned Elf” was not of the Alliance. As it stands now:
If you want to play a fair-skinned elf, the Horde is waiting for you.
If you want to play a purple-skinned elf with ties and memories going back to the Sundering (formerly a niche of the Night Elves), the Horde is waiting for you.
If you want to play a human with ties to the original Alliance, the Horde is waiting for you. The Humans on the Horde are even from the kingdom that helped found the original Alliance.
Out of the four original Alliance races, that’s 2 niches that the Alliance can no longer claim as theirs (up from 1 of 4 with BfA). The four core Alliance “races”, and the Horde can also claim the major components of the lore of half of them?
I ask, honestly hoping for an answer, what comparable can the Alliance claim from the Orcs? The Tauren? Orcs apparently are even a TItan-created race now, after a fashion, so that isn’t even unique to Dwarves, Gnomes, and Humans any more. So if you want to play a race created by the Titans, the Horde is also waiting for you.
I guess, if it has not been posed yet, one should ask “For what is the Alliance waiting for us?”
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I mean let’s be real, if the difference is only eye color -until now-, at least the cross faction aspect justifies HE’s as an allied race, and hence any further differentiation.
But if you want HE’s on the Horde, it’s literally just adding blue eyes to BE’s? Because even politically one would think that any HE’s that join now would change their names too, as they would be joining the Blood Elves.
They wouldn’t be High Elves unless they were part of the Alliance. The problem with playing Blood Elves now is that they’re an Alliance race artificially given to the Horde to boost player participation.
Only proper Alliance-aligned High Elves will suffice.
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uhh, artificially?
how precisely do you want them to reconcile the imprisonment of 15% of their population for execution by humans?
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I know a lot of you guys are hating on KT in here, and yeah humans do suck even with bad booty druid forms… that said we are closer to the Vulpera than LFD in execution; a whole new silhouette, major changes from the “base”.
If you put a SW human and a KT beside each other and showed them to someone who had no clue about WoW I bet you they’d say they were a different “race” where as you put a BE and HE in the same situation they may think you accidentally showed them the same model twice.
I want more variety in the Alliance, in the areas we are currently lacking in.
Maybe once that’s covered we can add in your blue eye’d BE and mildhammer without it feeling like, excuse the phrase, a “slap in the face” to the rest of your faction who want more options.
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And yet only one of the groups, the ones allied with the Alliance, still calls themselves “High Elves”. And even being “the same group of people” that group isn’t called “High Elves” at the base, either. So, yes, Blood Elves used to be High Elves. But anyone who knows anything really knows that when people talk about High Elves, they’re talking about a very specific group of Elves. And those aren’t Blood Elves, nor are they Void Elves.
On topic: Adding them to Horde would be a bad idea. Just keep them unplayable if that’s the case, because all that idea would do is piss people off.
Just as easy it was for Blood Elves to reconcile the Horde as a different entity to the one that burned down their forest and killed a lot of their people and ally under the same banner than forest trolls.
“Muh Garithos” isn’t an excuse. He was one human general enthralled by Dreadlords. Quel’thalas has more in common with the Alliance than the Horde to this day.
Absolutely not, if Alliance can’t have em then i’d prefer nobody does, and they remain an Alliance aligned npc race.
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