The entire Draenei race is made up of individuals who end up doing a pirouette, a mustache twirl and face-heeling hard into villainy on the regular. There are Draenei warlock NPCs, so it can happen. Maybe your character is actually an Eredar infiltrator. Maybe the Draenei as a whole relax and go with the human logic of “this is for the greater good that we use the powers that were used against us”.
I mean, there are Draenei who work with Orcs in the game too, and Orcs slaughtered them wholesale, sucked out their souls to build their portal and made a road out of their bodies so like…I feel like sometimes even a race that has been through a lot might have individual members who get over it depending on the situation, sometimes.
Grimtotem rogues didn’t make any sense either. How many of them could stealth? None of them. The whole basis of rogues are that they revolve around stealth. None of them had stealth because a species so large they could only ride one type of mount that could hold their mass was ridiculous to be stealthy and hidden from sight. It made more sense to call them warriors who had rogue abilities.
Not one single major Grimtotem character (Magatha or Kurog or Arnak etc.) was a mage. Any that were magic wielders were shaman. Even Jevan is a shaman. So that whole “Grimtotem were brought in to the horde” argument falls flat. Any that cast “Fireball” or stuff like that can be said to have been shaman with generic spells or at least not prolific enough to justify Tauren mages.
In the game, “stealth” is a form of shadow magic that confers actual invisibility. This is shown in cinematics where Thrall outs a Rogue that would otherwise be in plain sight with a handful of ash and one where Draka picks up a map in stealth and it floats in the air without a reason before she appears.
Tauren can use sneaky magic the same as any other race, now. Also, being large doesn’t mean that you can’t sneak around. A high amount of muscle control and awareness of your surroundings is all you need.
And that means that not one individual Tauren would ever think to take up the Arcane arts going forward…why again?
This is ridiculous. For one thing, there’s more to a rogue than just stealth. That’s just one ability out of many. And for another, stealth is obviously magic. A hulking, stupid orc or a metal gnome can stealth into a 100% lit room and nobody would see them.
Also, nothing stopped tauren hunters from using camo and sneaking around.
They weren’t called shaman, they were called sorcerers and with Blizzard letting us roll mages, it cements what they actually were.
Huh no it doesn’t fall flat. It’s lore. When Jevan took over he officially joined the Grimtotem with the Horde.
Wrong, else there wouldn’t be potions of invisibility and invisibility would work the same way as stealth, as in, you’d get spotted if you got to close to an enemy. With invisibility you can get as close to an enemy as you want, as long as it isn’t a detector. Can’t do that with stealth.
What did I post earlier? It makes no sense for Tauren to do so out of lore reasons. Your reasons for rogues and mages are extremely contrived, else we’d have gotten them when the game came out along with Orc mages because “dur hur they lurned!!” Their culture filled the ice, fire niche filled via shamanism.
The Holy Striders could explain that as they’re using strange abilities melding into nature-- basically, magic rogue stealth which made their skills appear divine…
…when they remember there’s much more lore in the Horde.
The ability that rogues are centered around. Please tell me what person who rolls a rogue never goes into stealth? None because it’s the foundation of their class.
IOW, we don’t need Tauren rogues, they have camouflaged hunters filling in the “sneaky” role. Done and done.
Blizzard let us roll mages because, again, they are taking steam turds on their own lore.
I never said he was a mage. He doesn’t have to be a mage to have mages in their ranks. See gnomes, trolls, humans and Forsaken.
No, they’re fine. They have been in the game, as NPCs, for 18 years.
Not really. “Rogue” just means (pulls out dictionary) a dishonest person or a person or thing that behaves in an unpredictable way. Pick pocket, back stab and open lock are also the foundation abilities of a rogue in fantasy settings.
Too bad we have them anyways. Done and done. Guess you should just get over it, go play Classic, or quit.
Funny enough is that Baine has been gone for seven years (supposedly a time skip while sitting in Orbios) while the tauren faced the scourge, surprised no one actually replaced him.
Specifically, * In The Shattering: Prelude to Cataclysm, there were Grimtotem assassins attacking Thunder Bluff, as well as technicians that set out bombs. There are also a number of Grimtotem mobs that use [Stealth] and other rogue-like abilities, indicating that the infamous tauren rogues can be found amongs their ranks.
What’s that, then?
What about that?
And why couldn’t a Tauren do that? I mean, they ARE now. In the live game. So obviously they can. But in your head, they couldn’t possibly step carefully and on selective surfaces because…reasons?
Even if no one had done it before, which as Tovi mentioned they pretty much have, there’s no reason that no one would going forward. The Tauren don’t have any deep-seated cultural biases against Arcane magic, and even if they did, there’s no reason that individuals might not choose to go a different way and pick it up.
Blizzard could decide that the Tauren leaders get up one day, buff the hooves, have a mug of coffee and think to themselves, “You know what? Why NOT cast some Arcane Missiles?” And they pretty much have, so like…it’s canon now. Because Blizzard said. Justify it however you like for your individual character, or don’t if your personal interpretation of the lore is strongly against it, but you can’t say it’s wrong because it’s in the game now.
The only shameful thing about giving us tauren Rogues and Mages is Blizzard didn’t give us solid white tattoos/paint so we could display our Grimtotem roots.
