Don’t forget the intimidating fans on the sideline too. Blowing airhorns and bouncing those shirtless painted bellies while screaming profanity at the players.
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See that is so OP. We need to remove the ball so the kickless have a chance to get a participation trophy.
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^ This
Soccer is awful lol.
So, you show up to the public park and there are some people playing soccer. There are some skinny dudes and some fat dudes, some old dudes and some young dudes. A couple of them are a man and his dad who is only good for a few minutes before he takes a break.
You, on the other hand, played soccer on a select team in high school. You played intramurals in college and even now you’re still fit and play to win.
The question is … why are you at a pick up game with a bunch of people just hanging out and having fun? Better yet, why are you raging at gramps for taking a breather and letting his man get past him for an easy goal?
Go play in an organized league. You’ll have more fun.
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why are people without competitive drive participating in a competition? to someone with a competitive personality there is no such thing as “only for fun” a scrimmage is just as serious as a championship game.
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Uh no. This is adults league not children’s ‘everyone’s just here to have fun :)’ league.
You sign up to join knowing you will be going up against people who have played soccer a lot longer than you.
Adults who join in a game or sport expect other adults to want to play, to know the rules and to want to do well. Adults strive to be best at what they are doing.
Wrong. We played in this soccer league for a long time. No other leagues nothing any more than this.
We are expected to carry the players who are one legged, only wearing underwear, or have a mental disorder and scream Portuguese profanity in a corner in the name of ‘FUN’
It was ok when there were one or two of these players but sometimes there are a lot of them. Probably because the less people you have the more these guys show up.
Our league is feeling like the Special Olympics some days.
A normal person would find new people to soccer with.
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Sounds like you showed up to rec drop in soccer. Welcome it’s always like this. You have a mix of people with different skills and desire to play. I’m not sure why you’d expect anything less when you showed up? Stick around and have fun with the people like you, because there are some of those too. Seriously drop in any sport will always be like this.
If you can’t handle the unskilled or the lazy maybe you shouldn’t come in the first place? You know there are actual teams you can join that play in a league where everyone shows up to play. Sounds more up your alley. Personally I like both.
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Ironically I never even did ashran on alts. I just qued up 2s and 3s and played random specs in random comps. Excellent catch up mechanic that felt awesome. Had enough free time after capping I actually dipped my toes in rbgs that expansion… I think it’s the only one I ever did.
Amen… Bring back actual world PvP. I’d take the potatoes over this mess lol.
I’d be very worried about that. Not the fighting for objectives but just further motivating people/classes to do things they really shouldn’t. i’d rather it was done in a private scenario.
They could even have waves, like spin the flag against a warrior. Next wave is a rogue with smoke bomb. That’ll teach people how bomb works, without putting a warlock in your match that is gonna obsess about grabbing the flag in WSG.
anyone can spin a flag or capture one, the point is to give players objectives that are team positive.
i don’t think a private scenario is a good idea, they tried that in the past with proving grounds and a lot of players complained until it was changed. its easier to stomach failure when you can blame someone else, but when you have nobody to blame but yourself players really don’t like that.
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Well said and excellent point.
Ima staunch believer in personal responsibility. It makes people better.
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Too right it does. I’m a fan.
Edit: If what I see on BGs is any representation of what Inemia is talking about, it’s a loud crowd. The remarks of “Way to go, losers” “You all suck” etc every time I check boards after a match are coming from lowest kills, lowest damage, no objective scoring people.
Agree to disagree sir
That’s why I say go full Mage Tower with it. Tints. Moms, etc. bribe the crap out of people to learn the mechanics.
Edit ok auto correct changed mogs to moms, but the hell with it, put some moms in there too
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I resemble that remark. 
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Whatever it takes.
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spinning only takes is a single hit to someone capping, even healers can spare a cast from time to time, and i have capped a flag in WSG on every class but DH.
the point is to encourage better team play in pvp, not reward single player pve.
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What about Smoke Bomb? Does everyone know all the nuances with that ability? That an AOE will still hit the rogue once and spin it even though the smoke, but won’t keep spinning so they have to close the distance?
Does everyone know to stand far enough away that sap will wear off before a cap finishes so they don’t waste their trinket and get blinded for even longer? The amount of people I see guarding the flag by spooning with it make me think otherwise. Make more people learn these things.
Knowing what a role is and how to do it is best taught this way. In the other thread where we were talking about this, a “kill the healer” thing would be another challenge. Doesn’t need that much, just some intelligent interrupt use and a CC.
run up and autoattack him, i play the slowest class in the game, if i can do it, anyone can.
these are things you learn by doing, you don’t need a scenario to teach this.
again though, this is stuff that is learned by doing, and won’t be taught properly with a scenario. the reason is that the scenario will teach players 1 method: say how to prevent a sapcap, rogues will just respond by using a different technique. people need a situation to make mistakes in order to learn from them, you can’t expect everyone to be a top level player by just doing a few scenarios. a quest with objectives leaves the possibilities for completing them wide open, which is a lot of room for learning.
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