If Blizzard treated their players like Square Enix does

Shadowbringers was an extremely busy expansion, and they are adding them in this upcoming one and no one really minds it anyways.

I am comparing ToS infractions to ToS infractions. What you think is irrelevant.

Well for them its not mild stuff.

Anyways the silly whataboutisms are getting tiring. I have memories to farm, bye!

This is the worst criticism I have seen of any gaming company in years. Oh no, they ban people who break the rules? SUCH SAVAGERY!

Don’t conflate enforcing rules and listening to feedback. The fact that you don’t see the difference is concerning to me.

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At this point there are too many things that need to be changed for WoW to actually feel like a game and not just some dudes’ DnD amateur campaign with a side of glorified gacha character builder gameplay.

Constructive criticism is a critical part of gameplay and game design as well. Without new ideas, old ones cannot be tested out and rebalanced with the new idea and any unforeseen fallout or bad coding errors left unfound.

Speaking of bad coding errors, how many times has WoW broken itself patch after patch just because of some code update doing something to the older parts of the lua code base?

I mean the backpack from WoW is literally 2004 or earlier code, and anything that interacts with it can just go so sideways as to actually cause most of the glitches we actually see.

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He mained a human paladin lol

kinda is, one is basically altering the in-game client and the other is a draconic measure because of “toxic behavior” (which is vague as anything can be viewed as toxic. Though getting punished because you linked a DPS chart in game is on par to calling someone a racial slur…kinda shows how thin-skinned people can be."

You got me there…these forums would be much more pleasant if WoW moderators followed the FF14 moderation rules.

You hear that mods, time to start getting rid of your “aggressive critics” just like good Ole FF14 does

That’s the sad truth.

The issue is the Developers don’t take WoW seriously, so those of us that do in the fanbase don’t get any traction, either here or in game, and especially from the majority that don’t see the improvements that this game can utterly benefit from overall.

Since you are woefully ignorant, before I leave I will inform you that damage meters get into the game’s data to work. They dont work through magical fairy dust. Other 3rd party software (like the one that lets you change your character’s poses) that also do this are equally banned on obvious public use.

That banning DPS meters from effectively only queued content with randos also reduces toxicity is just a happy secondary effect.

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I know you are into this whole ~snowflake safe space in FFXIV~ narrative to make you feel better, but FFXIV is literally the game its today thanks to its devs paying actual attention to criticism of all kinds.

Meanwhile, WoW devs dont pay real attention ANY kind of criticisms, even the most milquetoast and sugarcoated one.

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I don’t think FFXIV is even that relevant to the situation at hand. It is just the (maybe currently best) alternative in the moment that Warcraft hit a potential watershed moment.

Even if ppl stopped playing FF, even if they were banned from the forums, it wouldn’t stymie any ongoing exits. You’ve got New World in in just over a month. Ashes of Creation another year or more after that. It’s going to get a lot worse for WoW if it remains stuck in the mud.

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Do you imagine how the new player base will be playing ff14? I can’t wait for everyone using ACT and getting kicked because they called out someone’s dps. I can’t wait for people realizing how bad PvP is or the drag of playing the whole MSQ. No add ons to help you out and every expansion has new instore items to buy. Waiting for roulettes all day while being bored in the fc house. Is square Enix prepared for the new toxicity?

Players will only do stuff they can get away with. WoW was not always the sludge pit it is now. Nor was Overwatch. Blizzard just doesn’t seem to care about truly regulating the behaviors as time goes on, or cannot justify the budget necessary to do so.

FF has a lot of baseline addon features built into the game already, though.

Blizzard’s closest thing to an apology,
“We are sorry players were so bad at testing Torghast it didn’t turn out well.”

It’s a skill issue [ :

Higher ilvl is only 1% gains [ :

Trinkets, sets, corruptions, azerite traits, legendary gear, etc has never been the difference between viability and the bench [ :

They tried that back when they apologized for the treatment of that Hong Kong protester, they apologized for the whole thing, as they were afraid of China or something like that,

Problem is people didn’t accept the apology because last I heard that they never reversed the ban on that Hearthstone player…maybe they did? Maybe they didn’t?

Though we can’t really talk about Hong Kong protests now, given that these days in western countries if you work in an organic food shop and not wearing a mask, you will get chucked in a police car and taken away so :woman_shrugging:

They half walked it back in a pathetic attempt to appease both China and the playerbase.

I will say in the spirit of fairness, the community has treated attempts to communicate with them with utter contempt and vitriol, so no one should be surprised they stopped altogether. As with most things, it’s not as simple as Devs R Dumb or Playerz R Turdbagels, no matter how fond everyone is of simple binaries.

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We don’t even have a ticket system in this game. GMs publically answered Asmongold’s ticket while he was playing and relatively quickly while 200,000 people were actively watching him play FFXIV.

IIRC it was worse than that.
JAB said one thing in English, released an official statement in Chinese that said something different.

it’s also going to be worse for FF14 because they’re heavily investing in server space. They’re going to find Asmon’s stans and those joining streamers to be trustful and finding out horrific stuff