Players AFK’d in BG’s before CRBG’s.
And if you’re in a premade vs pug on the pug side you aren’t getting honor anyways.
PvP is part of what messed up Vanilla, and you guys are proving why that is all over again. I don’t know why you play if you all hate it so much.
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If you AFK, you’re filth.
If you AFK, you will be reported and banned.
Players were reported, band and vacation times because they cheated.
I didn’t say I would AFK, I said I would do the minimum to avoid AFKing while losing quickly 
There’s no reason to try to drag out a premade vs pug. It’s better to just lose quickly and try for a real game.
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or…you could do a little labor to help organize premades to join. just a thought.
why? I could also just not do that and wait for a pug vs pug game.
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Your attitude is why the alliance have a problem, so many alliance players share your opinion.
Your attitude towards “work”, is why Alliance premades do not include players like you regardless of your skill level.
I personally choose to blacklist players who have your attitude because it’s toxic to winning and actual competition.
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Might as well make the salt post now. That’s how it was is in vanilla and that’s how it will be.
If you wanted actual competition you would support premades being matched with other premades.
You know real competition.
There is zero reason for a pug group to try to waste time fighting a pre made. There’s a reason why virtually every game out there with a matching system tries to segregate pugs and premades WC3 did it.
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Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the next month of Classic Forum threads!
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Dividing the PvP community is harmful to the maximum potential of the new players because they’re not exposed to top end play. As a result players of a lower caliber will never sekn to advance personal skills and instead blame the class of faction for personal failure.
Every time you post looking for a way to “make things fair” you’re further proving my point that the Alliance is weak because of its culture made possible by players like yourself.
You need to harden up, advance your personal skills and stop looking for ways to avoid competition and hard fought battles.
I can tell you I have single handedly overturned countless “Horde victories” because the Alliance were just convinced that “because Premade made we lost”.
I’m telling you it’s just not that simple, and a few decent players in a pug BG, heck even ONE can make a difference.
It’s time for you to stop being weak and play better and fight harder.
This is why the horde often win, because they fight back almost no matter what.
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Lol you think horde won’t also be losing quick when they end up in a pug vs premade?
This is a video game I play for fun, fighting a premade in a pug is not fun as such I see no reason to prolong the experience. It’s not a question of get good.
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No, because when you spend 30 min in Q you’re not as likely to roll over based on a alleged disadvantage.
You are weak and have so spirit for PvP and should be ashamed of yourself for polluting the Alliance.
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True, but we do have the technology now to spam a discord link at the start of a bg during the countdown and get your pug more coordinated.
The games will be quick and swift.
LOL too bad we’re getting CRBG’s so queue times will be quick.
And no a long queue time still is no motivation to force yourself through an awful experience for no rewards.
Maybe you just aren’t very good at pvp if you are unable to understand when you have lost a match.
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Horde Q’s will be long, there are simply more Horde PvP oriented players than Alliance.
You do not understand PvP, it’s very obvious.
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I think you are missing what is actually going to happen when bg’s come out. Premades are not going to be queue’ing up and facing whichever team the RNG gods decide they have to fight, they will be queue dodging until they face a pug.
So basically, pugs are going to have an incredibly high chance of facing a premade, and premades will almost never fight each other.
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why wait at all when you could head down to Hillsbrad and zerg there? or is that too much work?
you all kill me, whining because you can’t play the game exactly a specific way to suit yourself. deal with it.
Then don’t play BGs, you’re not forced to. PUG/Premade only queues would be inefficient, this has already been demonstrated.