Blizzard doing #nochanges: PLS CONSIDER PEOPLE NOWADAYS
Blizzard doing #somchanges: STOP CHANGING THINGS
Classic andys in a nutshell.
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Even the WF race for Wrath is over.
Nope, its just basic common sense. If you dont want a buff, dont use it.
Its the same concept of using the Spartan armor in GoW Ragnarok, its entirely your choice. So you can turn off the buff to finish your progression.
Or some people just want to have fun.
Why should I care what anyone on these forums think?
I dont know what you are expecting. Its been explained time and time again. PEOPLE CAN TURN THE BUFF OFF IF THEY WANT TO. I cant believe that giving people options is such a radical idea. Some just want to have fun, others apparently want the challenge but refuse to turn the buff off… who is the one with the problem in that scenario?
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You made a point about people having fun.
You don’t seem to care much about the fun of people who don’t want the raid to have a scaling buff implemented.
Turn it off if you don’t want the buff. This isn’t rocket science.
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It’s not rocket science that my opinion is that it’s not fun that it’s even an option. I shouldn’t have to choose, it just shouldn’t exist.
You guys don’t care much about this take - and it’s one a lot of people share.
oh wow…another topic from low level character showing hate toward the buff.
It’s Real money traders aka (gdkp’s runners & tickets sellers) who’s mad about the buff and keep posting on multi alt characters.
it’s ridiculous that blizzard is leaving those trash players Unbanned
10m ticket sell for ~600k
invincible mount sell for 500k
25 gdkp’s goes for +Million and gdkp creator leech most of it
they’re doing that on multi mains/alts and get million of gold weekly to sell it on 3rd party sites, that’s why 3rd party sites has millions in stock for sale.
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I haven’t done a GDKP since mid Ulduar and I don’t think a buff should exist.
The tin foil hat is frying your brain brother.
hahahaha all real money traders say the same
all Real money traders miserably lie
I would agree that fellas who sell gold would also share this opinion, but I am not one of them.
I think the difficulty of ICC is fantastic, and that everyone should be kept on the same playing field until Cata where a sweeping nerf (or buff) should be implemented ala SWP nerfs in Wrath prepatch.
this is not a new game…this is a re-release of 14years old expansion and the buff is part of it, if u don’t like that? do not play a re-release and go play a new game which has unknown future.
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Yeah and the gamma dungeons weren’t a part of original Wrath. Neither were 3.3.5 talents for the entire game.
Dumb point is dumb, it’s not the same game.
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adding more things is always good if it’s improvement but removing something that people expect it to be here is never good.
don’t you have any successful business to know the basics? oh wait…i forgot that you live on selling wow gold.
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Keep moving the goalposts I’m sure you’ll find the right spot eventually.
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And it’s been explained that it’s about being close to clearing content right before drop of the next patch. Tthe ask from the OP is NOT that we remove the buffs forever. This fact is conveniently ignored for some reason. The satisfaction a guild gets from clearing “at patch” vs a little after is huge. That’s why “just turn off buffs”, doesn’t fit the bill. Surely you understand that.
I’m just super curious why the huge backlash against the ask. If you disagree you disagree totally fine. But man, some of you are acting like they’re taking away LFD or something.
the same reason everyone hated world buffs in classic but still spent multiple hours everyweek making sure they had them, and for as long a duration as possible.
There is a saying of how players will optimize the fun out of any game. This is especially true of wow players. When faced with the option to choose between maintaining fun or increasing optimization at the cost of fun they will 100% of the time increase optimization.
Its kinda like the lemming stereotype where lemmings are marching off a cliff (yes i know they don’t do this IRL that’s why i said “stereotype”) but in this case the lemmings see what’s coming, are fully aware of the jagged rocks at the bottom of the cliff, and both fear and understand the pain they are about to be in, but are powerless to stop just the same.
I love watching it happen 
The buff starts on what, week 9? That’s a bit over two months. If you didn’t clear what you wanted before the buff starts, you lost. That’s okay. The content challenge is starting to go up and it’s okay if people don’t make it in time.
Essentially, by delaying the buff, what you are asking for is a few more lockouts of loot to make the push. Or you just need some more pulls for practice. Well the good news is that the 5% buff will help you get clears for loot and get more pulls in.
Once your guild is stacked in 277 gear and has more practice, then you can turn the buff off for a week to see how you’ve progressed. That’s the problem right now right? If only you had a bit more gear, or maybe if the drops were a bit better.
Well, for better or worse, only one person needs to decide to turn the buff off for everyone and it can’t be turned back on that week. Week 9 can be a whoopsie-daisy :3
many players in classic never bothered to get world buffs & there was some guilds who even banned their raiders from getting world buffs during p1/p2/p3
what pain? most of those buff haters already cleared 12/12 Hc, there is no logic for them to hate the buff since it won’t have any effect on them in fact it will ease their life and make them clear faster
-But the reason they show insane hate toward the buff is because they’re selling gdkp’s and tickets and don’t want their market to be destroyed.
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I didn’t think there would be threads that would want me have the pro/anti RDF spam back, but these pro/anti buff ones just hurt my soul with the arguements being put forth.
And I can’t stop reading them.
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the pain was part of the metaphor (the lemmings are also not lemmings) it is not literal pain, it is people hating the buff and getting it despite hating it
p1 and p2 of vanilla were effectively the same phase in terms of pve content many were still adjusting to the meta. I can’t prove that there weren’t any guilds that weren’t full world buffs by the end of phase 3, but i have little doubt that if there were they were few and far between.
fun fact: apparently the buff is already live.