That doesn’t run against anything I’ve said. If I reach max level, and there is a 1+ hour queue (a few days ago it was 30 minutes), I’m not sure that nostalgia fuel will keep me here. In truth, I have not even reached level 70. I’m 48, I think? I won’t even reach max level before my subscription ends to see the climbing queue. I think it was you (I could be wrong) that said it was perfectly fine for Horde to wait 4 hours or more. I apologize if it wasn’t you. I’m too lazy to go hunt that down, but the sentiment is ridiculous, regardless of the source.
It would just need to be enough for people to say ‘hey that’s so overpowered, I want to try it.’ Like adding a buff to the underdog faction on a server that adds 25 resilience to players in battlegrounds, Add racial priest spells for humans, dwarves, and draenai that allow them to interrupt at a range on a 2 minute cooldown. Add a NE passive which allows them to shadowform vanish in combat once every 10 minutes. Things that give an edge in PVP situations that won’t necessarily break them in PVE. It’s all armchair game design here, but the way I see it, we’re seeing a problem based on the ‘more popular pvp faction’ having to wait, why not fix it by incentivizing PVP for the other faction.
Pretty big change of heart from “it doesn’t effect me at all” to “there won’t be much for me to do”
Seems like it effects you quite a bit.
Shut up.
Eh I’m not going to lie your approaching some REAL tbc+ territories and tbh I’m not opposed to changes but this is like really too far for my taste.
It’s a player-created problem, but it’s up to Blizzard to fix it. Can’t just say “reroll” when it takes 100+ hours of played time to level a new character from scratch. Anyone who says otherwise is just ignorant and/or biased.
Faction disparities weren’t nearly as bad back in the day largely because there was no streamer influence. Or min/max gameplay mindsets. Etc.
Blizz needs to open up limited time horde -> alliance faction changes (free or discounted imo) to help solve this problem. Or merc mode. Or horde v horde. Something. Instead of ignoring the problem.
It isn’t hard to imagine a scenario in which if there are 1 hour queues (or more) at max level, I would not want to stay subscribed (if PVP is my only interest). However, I’ve also stated that I’m happy to wait in the queue because I have other hobbies. Both are true, and it’s not hard to understand why. Players often will give things a try for a while to see if it works for them, and if it doesn’t, they will move on. It’s difficult for me personally to find a deep concern about a topic that does not yet affect me. I’m less interested in finding some binary position in this mess that might improve my gameplay experience later on than I am in seeing Blizzard and it’s community find a solution that helps everyone. It makes good business sense.
It does not affect me at all. But if I were going to stay, I could imagine growing tired of waiting an hour or more to enter one match, even with patience and other hobbies.
What’s even more bizarre here is your problem with a solution that doesn’t affect you. You’re an Alliance player that can queue and enter at your will. If Blizzard offers factional transfers to Alliance, it seems to me that helps fix the game for Horde players and it will have no impact on your queue or gameplay. What’s hilariously trite to me is that you are so devoted to getting whipped up over a community that just wants better access to a video game they pay monthly for. It’s baffling to any sane bystander.
the only way they can possibly fix it is by allowing another alliance-only boost to 58 to become available. that’s the BEST possible thing you’re gonna get, just fyi.
no, they can do better than that. but thanks for your input
Then the qs clearly then do effect you. I think the only thing you’ve made abundantly clear is that your word means absolutely nothing and changes depending on what your agenda is for that specific time period.
Again, the word you’re looking for here is affect. And no, since I am not max level, it doesn’t affect me. When you isolate a comment and take it out of context, it’s easy to build a different narrative around it. But as I’ve already said here, my subscription ends in a week. My interest in this game, the community, this topic, is waning. I am responding at this point only because you are replying to me.
But I find it intriguing that you do not offer any explanation for why a faction transfer is a problem for you.
Does it affect Alliance queues? No.
Does it affect the outcome of BGs? No. You could argue it might actually be better if Horde players are moving to Alliance. I’m not sure.
Does it affect you, Rorshak the angry dwarf at all? No. Of course not.
So why are you against finding a solution? Because you are an angry, trite little person who desires retribution against the other faction. Not for any good reason. You’ve just let the game spill over into reality and cloud your judgment. You sincerely desire to see other players suffer while literally playing the same game that you do.
Doesn’t it make better sense to come together, realize that each faction needs the other, and support and advocate for solutions that improve the game for everyone? It’s so painfully obvious that it’s genuinely baffling to watch a community make a mountain out of a molehill. You all like the game. Half (give or take a little) of you are experiencing the equivalent of an hour to load a game while the other half enjoys near-instant gratification. Of course that’s a problem! What is there to squabble over? Because something bad happened to you in an earlier phase of Classic, and you want revenge? I mean, it’s fine if you feel apathetic towards others’ plight. I understand that. But you actually go out of your way to devote time to shutting down ideas to help resolve the disparity. And at the same time, you don’t bother explaining why.
If that isn’t pure insanity, I don’t know what is.
Slagdor’s got you beat, bro.
Woah, an actual alliance player with a logical level headed view on this topic? I didn’t think it existed.
Must be a horde spy
Because it doesn’t effect me because I made the right decision unlike the majority of you guys in here. Idk why you would think I would be upset at making the right decision and actively benefiting from that.
You can act like I’m upset all you want to make yourself feel better. But in reality I am in the winning spot and feel great about my decision.
I’m sorry you don’t feel that way about yours. Try again another time!
Also your cute little ‘affect’ ‘effect’ difference was really cool and all but either one you use still contradicts both of the statements you said. And they were quite literally not taken out of context. You straight up said it doesnt AFFECT you when literally said that at end level if it’s that bad there would be no reason to play. That by every single definition of the word AFFECT or EFFECT is contradictory to everything you just said.
So shut your mouth. You have nothing of substance to provide here. You are upset that you made the wrong decision and you are super unhappy about how mean everyone is being to you for being stupid.
When creating a character does it tell you “Hey Horde is over populated Q will be long” This is a combination of Community and Blizzard.
Are you guys seriously still playing the “I didn’t know horde have qs” card? Absolutely not a single person, horde or alliance, buys this BS btw.
Can’t forget the “UD has always been my main since I started the game” crowd.
There’s suddenly a ton of those coming out of nowhere.
Then why do you care if other people advocate a solution?
I don’t have to act like anything. Your own words illustrate that you’re an angry little person.
I feel great about choosing Horde! I’m sorry you misunderstood.
I hope you were able to learn something. There are many articles online that can help you better understand the differences between Affect and Effect and when to use them.
Correct. You’re starting to catch on. It does not affect me because I am:
A) Not Level 70
B) Unaware of how said queues will trouble me while I have other hobbies
C) Mostly indifferent on how the topic affects me personally
See, while you obsess endlessly over my earlier comments, my role and plans in the game, I am utterly unconcerned with those things because I have already canceled my subscription, but not for the reasons you keep trying to assert. I will say it again for the hard at reading: I am only interested in seeing Blizzard resolve a simple problem for the community that benefits everyone. This is not rocket science. Also, it will have zero effect on my decision to stay subscribed.
My mouth has no influence on any of this.
Ironic coming from you.
Definitely not.
Not upset in the slightest. I keep using different synonymous to help illustrate my feelings on the matter: baffling, amusing, perplexing, confusing. The behavior is just bizarre to me for gamers that all love and financially support the same title.
Most importantly, you haven’t answered my question. You know the solutions that players have suggested do not affect you, yet you are here whining endlessly about my role in the discussion. Who cares what I personally do with my own characters? I have not hidden from my support of factional transfers (Horde to Alliance), or other creative options that reduce the queue from an hour (or more) to hopefully a few minutes, or less.
I can explain why I support that decision; I can illustrate how it likely does not negatively impact the Alliance faction; and I can still cancel my subscription and be happy for the players left behind.
You, on the other hand, cannot explain why you do not support it. You are obviously very angry about any solution to resolve the disparity, yet you never seem to bother explaining why. You just wave your little Alliance flag and pat yourself on the back for making “the right decision”. I’m very happy for you personally. It sounds like you’re having a great time! But why do you wish the other half of the PVP community in WoW to suffer 1+ hour long queues? Without explaining how you personally made the right choice, can you answer that question? Do you have a good reason for wanting other players to wait so long to enter one match? I’m genuinely curious why a player as devoted to the discussion as you are is so determined to see a system remain in place that is actively harming the enjoyment of the game for other players? Without attacking me or telling me to “shut up”, can you answer that?
Hello keyboard warrior.
I like hearing actual solutions and not nonsense that actively hurts the game, that we have seen happen in real time over and over and over again and people still go to them like they will help the game when you should know they won’t. Call it whatever you want, I call it stupid.
You can read my words like that if you want, all my posts are for sure added with a comedic roasting type of language. If you want to read this as anger that’s up to you!
And they both apply here so idk what else to tell you, both definitions make you look foolish and contradictory, jsut because I typed one other than the other doesn’t change your contradictions. If you need me to walk you through it I can I guess? But I’m guessing you know this and you’re just arguing to argue now.