I was wrong, RDF sucks

FFXIV is 300+ hours of a what we would consider a continuous Call of Water quest chain with nodding simulator cutscenes and an endgame of glamour and buying cash shop dance moves. Is that what you propose for classic?

(and yeah, tank queues are fast, heals medium, dps can be slow… rdf does not magically fix this balance, even in ffxiv where once you get into an instance you can just spam one button while avoiding damage zones, which, admittedly, is what their instances are about and they do a good job making a solo dance out of it)

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No, I’m just calling out the community blaming RDF for WoW players in general being antisocial A-holes lol.

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you can’t socialize if you are not in a group. RDF as a healer and it’s possible to never spend a moment in WoW alone.

Time spent with others is always the first number you count when you’re comparing how social the systems are, imo.

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Well, unless you are adding everyone’s battletag in-game… There’s always anonymity.

Sounds great! Tell us about some of your recent RDF interactions!

So someone on the internet talked about weed and it would be even moreso and better with RDF?

People socialize in guild chat and Discord, not dungeon groups. It’s the same on Retail and Classic. RFD or lack of it doesn’t make a difference. If you want to socialize with other players, dungeons are not the proper place for that.

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the thing that makes RDF more social is the frequency of interaction, not the depth of conversation.

I play this game just as much as you do and you cannot BS me.

The ceiling for conversation you can tap out one handed mid dungeon is so low anyway, I could do without organizing the game around maximizing that.

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Kek. I quite literally have an active forum thread about how conversations are not the definition of social interaction. And not even the most ardent RDFers have disagreed.

So how about you enjoy stoners talking about weed while i enjoy peeps focusing on the tasks at hand and interacting as a team and please don’t BS me. :upside_down:

WoTLK dungeons are the same way without RDF. No one chats at all or says anything because everyone is slamming through it as fast as possible with no need to discuss anything. You’re grouping with strangers to kill mobs as fast as possible and finish the dungeon. No one has time to talk and there is nothing to talk about. RDF does nothing to change any of this.

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Uhh… No. Nobody said that at all or mentioned anything like that. Final Fantasy was just used as an example of a successful MMO that uses an RDF finder.

People are stating that RDF makes the game less social. FFXIV shows that, that argument is silly and that a game can be successful with RFD and won’t cause any kind of negative effects to the social aspect of the game.

you have a right to your opinions, just dont try and pass them off as fact. it does NOT make all other forms of leveling obsolete. maybe it does for YOU but it doesnt for me. i still quest, i still get the achievements for questing, for exploring, i still farm mats… still out and about in the world. and all LFG has ever done for me is get insulted, made to wait hours on end and maybe get one run every couple of days.

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if they did they would just be called a liar because it didnt happen to anti rdfers. they asked me to relate some of my experiences between rdf and lfg and when i did most of my rdf were good experiences, with most of my lfg being bad. they flamed me for lying and saying that my experiences could never have happened. did some research only to find that every time someone shares their positive rdf experiences they get attacked in mass by the alt troll army.

what we have here is someone that NEEDS the validation from the VIRTUAL world that his real life doesnt give him. its typical of the anti rdf crowd…

imagine fighting so hard to deny other people their gaming experience so that he can get “intrinisic value” from his VIDOE GAME instead of putting all that effort into bettering his real life. if it wasnt so sad i would be laughing.

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Nah, RDF with satchels of bonus rewards and exp is fine.

Endgame is what matters leveling is just a task.

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It was bad post, about not knowing how to socialize with people, you probably should go back and reread it because you didnt comprehend any of it.

How was it bad?

Can you quote where the OP said any of that?

Yeah, I don’t think I’m the one that misread here.

You don’t need LFG to socialize. You wanna socialize? Join trade chat. Join a guild.

LFG gatekeeps classes that aren’t beneficial for fast dungeon clears.

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Correct.

Sometimes yes. Sometimes no.

I do those things.

I think that that definitely happens, but I am skeptical that it happens as much or as often as some people here say it does.

Not sure why you are replying to my post. It kinda sounds like we’re on the same side.

Because he claimed not being able to socialize with people because of RDF, but clearly never put forth any effort to do so but still for some reason tries to blame RDF. Which would make it a troll post which makes it in turn a bad post.

Is it easier now that I explained things simpler for you?