I was wrong, RDF sucks

Is the gearscore addon back yet? That addon was lit.

This is the point, yes.

So we’re in the Nexus, we’re pulling trash… what is so meaningful to you that you want me to stop fighting and say to you? Are we going to talk about the weather? How treelike that Crystalline Keeper is? The stats on the green that just dropped?

There is a time and place to be social in this game. In between pulls isn’t it. The social during dungeons angle is by far the dumbest one ever conjured by the anti crowd.

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I really like that in classic you can queue solo and just wait until someone invite you instead of applying to groups over and over for 30 minutes

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Us OG players need to quit griping about RDF. We know exactly where the game is headed if this is implemented. I used to want RDF back in the day too, yet it made me lose interest in the game almost instantly lol.

The funny thing is most people don’t seem to know. But they are here, playing Classic Wrath….instead of retail​:joy::joy::joy::joy:

Let history repeat itself bois! In 2030 something we will all be back playing Classic Vanilla/Bc/Wrath again…the pro-RDF people right now will become the new anti-RDF and us millennial players will be there laughing at it all.

So the same thing that happens in WOTLKC right now but with less steps to get into the content.

Also is this you being anti-RDF from 9 days ago? https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/en/wow/t/prepare-for-the-worst-if-we-dont-have-rdf/1344361/291

When exactly did you change your mind? It seems you were always anti-RDF so why pretend that you were all for it but now you’ve changed your mind?

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Most of the anti trolls post on so many alt toons it’s probably really hard for them to keep their stories straight.

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Sure, you get a dungeon slightly faster than in Classic, but its deader than dead… No one says a word, no one seems… alive; its just so monotonous and formulaic.

I get that currently in Wrath Classic.

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Well yea so u were saying they dont really conversate in classic. the 4 of us cleary did.

So exactly like dungeons are in Wrath right now anyway

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Is your argument lack of conversation in a group?

What are you trying to discuss as you clear a dungeon? What exactly have you tried to bring up in chat?

I can’t believe these arguments to keep a simple tool to assist in finding a group the quickest out of the game.

There are exceptions to every rule, you’re just as capable of chatting in a RDF as you are in a regular group. Fact is that people don’t really talk in normal groups

Are you telling me you want to have interactions with other people in an MMO? Uh no sir, not in my classic.

That’s just the way I like it.

Dungeon done, and “TY for group!”

On to the next.

Basically yes, and that the grouping up timeline was really not any faster as DPS vs how long it takes me to get groups (at any level) on Grob.

If I am doing present level content on Grob; getting groups is way faster than RDF.

I was formerly for having RDF in, but seeing how freaking dead it is… It was like playing with zombies… Literally do not want to play with that kind of people, and if RDF is in, then its Cross server… /PUKE.

Yeah people get really defensive about their “Stance” on things. I fully admit when I am wrong, and on this I was straight up wrong… RDF as it is in retail, sucks.

Legit all we need are some filters for the freaking LFG chat… so that we can filter players group request by character level… That right there would make using LFG chat like 100X better.

Even some kind of UI function like you’re talking about, long as its got filters so you can filter chat by level so that its the content you’re actually interested in…

Actually I feel like RDF enables this behavior, well that and wildly undertuned content.
Because the content is way too easy; people just go AFK in real life, and because people are literally almost never likely to see each other again because RDF is cross server… Again why talk with them since you’re never to see them again, especially unlikely to see them again on your server, because most of the time its not from the same server even if many realms are now cross linked.

Point being that I think RDF on its own does not directly create the Retail problem, but instead its likely a combination of systems that trains the players to behave a certain way.

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The ONLY thing I have issues with when it comes to the current lfg tool is the usual brainless quality of the usual dps and waste of time of people who are not ready, but love to waste people’s time.

Here is an example of how a pre-run with lfg tool can go.

Tank: “Okay, so I am at the stone, sure I had the time to head from the other end of the world, but apparently nobody else bothered to head here. Can I get someone to get here to help with summons?”
Healer: “Sorry, I am heading there now.”
Dps1: “SORRY, I WAS FAR.”
Dps2:" SORY, MY TOEZ ARE COLD!"
Dps3: “What’s going on? What we doing again?”
Tank: Black Morass. We’ve said this three times.
Dps3: Sorry, I play dps and thus am stupid. (A part of this was probably not said).
Dps 1: WAIT 2 MINS ON SUMMON, DOING PEEVEEPEE!

Healer gets there and summon starts. Everyone flies down.
Dps 3: Wait, I need to do the escort first.
Dps 2: MY TOEZ R EVEN COLDAR. AFK 5 MINS TO FIX DAT.
Tank: Wait, so you haven’t done Durnholde?
Dps 3: Oh yeah. Guess I haven’t. Bye!
Dps 3 leaves.
Get another dps.
New dps 3: KAY! I NEEDZ SUMMON!"
summon new mouth breather
New dps 3: Kay I got escort to do!
Dps 2: BACK MY TOEZ R NOW SLIGHLY WARMAR! WHAT INSTANCE WE DOING?!

And it goes on. I can do without those.

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That unfortunately my friend is the price we pay for playing with pugs… Hence why I preference to play with my guild whenever humanly possible.

Trouble is, many people are very much antisocial and want a solo players game… But they want WoW to be a solo players game… These people really are playing the wrong game, and frankly should be asking Blizzard to make a purely solo players game… There is a market for it, but Zug-Blizzard is way too stupid to do that.

the millenials, in general, are the problem. the millenial gamer was brought up on twitch which taught them its cool to be toxic and troll and to ruin other folks gaming experiences. all you have to do is look at games like rust and sea of thieves to see that. wrath classic was supposed to be a return to the wrath we loved, not some twisted form of wrath reforged. and theres no way blizzard “listened to its community” they got popped for doing unacceptable things and dropped the game into the hands of a team of woke developers that insist on ruining what is arguably the highest point of wow popularity.

theyve overcompensated in the wrong direction to make up for the evils that the company has committed. and their social contract is a farce at best.

People are the same way in premade groups. You greet one another, do the dungeon without saying a word and then say gg and leave. Usually, ppl only pipe in when they get angry.

No Retail RDF sucks, and you cannot compare the two even if there was one in wrath because different players, but nice try, its not all retail players that want it FYI

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