I was wrong, RDF sucks

Yes, and literally zero response… I swear it was like playing with bots… bad bots…

Game got better, its way less bad now, I would not say its “great”, but its certainly a crap ton better than launch SL.

honestly, I don’t seem to have nearly that much wait on Grob at any level, tho I try and play in a more dynamic way; leveling multiple characters at the same time and I watch LFG channels to see what is poppin and jump on that… Normally on my lower level characters I am not idle more than 10 to 15 min at the worst; and while I am in LFG chat I am typically doing some quests / grinding if need be.

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is this youre only character on classic? bc it would explain why you’re not getting into groups very fast.

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People talk the same amount regardless. Slogging through lfm doesnt magically turn people into social butterflies

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I am not sure if this question is directed at me or the OP.

I try to talk and get along with everyone I run into in the game, but sometimes people aren’t feeling it and I am okay with that. Sometimes I feel that way myself, but I typically don’t do group content when I feel that way.

As for opinions and all that - well, everyone is allowed an opinion regardless. It’s up to you to decide whether or not that opinion holds any weight.

I’d like to think my thoughts and feelings hold some weight, but I am okay with people not picking up what I am throwing down.

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But they weren’t bots - they just didn’t feel like talking.

Do you think that if the group had been formed any other way it would have produced different results?

I don’t think it would have.

No matter how hard Blizzard tries to force social interaction, if a player doesn’t want to they won’t.

Kudos to you though if you did attempt to socialize.

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No it doesn’t, Retail sucks.

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I must be missing literally every group with all this riveting conversation and life long friendships forged. I’ve not seen anything more than Hi and Byes exactly like Retail. Wanna know why that is?

It’s the same playerbase.

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We have run probably close to 30-40 wrath dungeons and actually let pugs in on them on half and not one word is spoken, cept gg or ty ,so it’s not RDF, it’s the players.

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It forms the only other way in “Classic” and I do have different results in Classic… Its not always a lively conversation but at least people talk a little on average; I have not played a game as dead as present retail tho… Not talking about the activity, but the lack of chat in dungeon. I am not kidding, the people in retail play as if they have no soul; its literally dead silent. Are they bots? No actual idea, some play ok, some play like crap, others play like they’re trying for a +21 key.

That’s 100% more than the literal zero I could get out of the present retail crowd.

Now, is that 100% the blame of RDF? Not actually sure, but man was it a soulless experience.

honestly in retail if ur pushing any kind of content ur not touching rdf with a 10 foot pole. leveling w/ rdf is pretty much exactly what it’s meant for

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Well then, your experience has been different than mine.

I can’t even get people to join a group with me in over world questing even though we are in the same area, doing the same quests, at the same time, and actively competing with each other for mob spawns when it would be entirely beneficial for both of us to not do that but time and time again - in Wrath Classic - I see this:

“Group invitation declined”

I feel the same way about the LFG classic experience the last 6 months of grinding all my alts. We even broadcast our discord and inv pugs here and there but nope, silence. Funny though, when I last played retail, shortly after Shadowlands came out, I got ina guild cause of RDF and started raiding with them. It’s the players not the systems.

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IMO playing several characters and watching LFG chat is the most effective way to play Classic for leveling. Because you get to see what’s going on in chat, and if something pops up that you need, you simply wisper and then make sure they know you’re swapping toons… Its so easy to get groups and everyone I have played with in sub cap dungeons has been really friendly and there is usually some kind of a convo going on… Sometimes its a bi spartan but at least people communicate… Others times, it’s been super jammin, but this could be a side effect of playing on Grob.

That’s really sad sounds like retail and perhaps what, what server you on? Maybe its a server community thing? Not actually sure because I play on Grob, now playing both factions and both sides are fairly active in chat.

Seeing this here a lot…

Now I am thinking that because Retail is conjoined into a single RDF; the disease of non-communication has spread to all servers in retail and why the retail game is generally dead silent… Meanwhile some say that this is the way things are in Classic; meanwhile my experiences on Grob has been quite the inverse of the “its dead on Classic”

yeah the LFG “Tool” they gave us is really underwhelming…

Good news is you don’t really need a tank or a real healer in Wrath’s dungeons… This is why I cant understand all the elitism BS that people spout about need X class or some crap.

No one does any of this now…

The same people on retail are on classic…

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I would rather me get on the toon I want to play, queue for what I want and depending on role work on other things till queue pops vs LFM and using this god awful tool they gave us.

When we don’t feel like dealing with pugs we usually are just 3-4 manning the dunegons as me and my friends and guilies all hate it. I have tanks and heals that are not being used for the most part for the server due to us staying in our small group vs if we had RDF we would just queue.

This is the issue I have. People would rather compete for mobs than team up. I saw this countless times tonight in New Hearthglen.

Mega server, figures. Go make you a toon on a low pop realm. Just do it and make sure you choose the unbalanced side. Currently alli outnumbers us 8 to 1 and I feel sorry for Horde DPS. Then come back and tell me how it is., I got 2 guys on Fera and it’s different there than the other servers I play on.

I agree but it’s not about needing this or that it’s about the social aspect as so many anti-rdf claim. Well no rdf makes me, my friends and my guildies NOT want to be social and help others. RDF would change that as we WOULD queue to allow other players to run, learn, or maybe even consider making a toon on our server and join our guild.

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Mankrik. It’s a good server and has an excellent community/population overall (Horde side at least).

People sometimes just don’t want to socialize and I won’t lie - it has been discouraging seeing how often people do not want to group up even when the design of the game compels us to want to do that.

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Everyone in your RFD group knew that after they left the group, they would never see anyone else in the group ever again, even if they re-queued immediately.

i checked your post history, i don’t see any posts saying you wanted rdf? so your just some random guy who claims he did want it before but does not want it now.

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