I want to be pack leader

Buff pack leader hero talent tree Blizzard please

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So play pack leader?

I can’t comment on what it will be like for BM, but I do know that for survival that is a very strong bleed build that will be coming out in the new patch

Yeah, Butchery is going to have a longer cooldown and one charge but a lot more damage and a talent to leave a bleed. People are speculating it might be worth using in ST rotation even

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They could buff it until it’s numerically busted and I still wouldn’t play it. (Ok maybe I would but still)
I want to be a Pack Leader. I don’t want to be the current implementation of Pack Leader.

I love me some bleeds / DoTs. I’ll have to look into that.
I’ve actually been wanting a DoT melee spec to alt. Assassination is great but I don’t really vibe with the Rogue elements, DK is more of a Summoner than a DoT class, Feral eh… I just don’t want to be a cat. :man_shrugging:

I feel unless you’re pushing the highest stuff. You can play any hero talent honestly. I’ve never once done a low key or content so far and went you’re using THAT hero spec? Long as it’s dying and we’re not dying who cares.

and get kicked out of every group possible, geez, I wonder why would people not play it in an MMOROG, where the first two letter stand for MASSIVE MULTIPLAYER

Pack leader is viable in low keys and delves.

Tell me you don’t know what you’re talking about without telling me.

You can be one if the only thing it can do is dailies. Sounds like you don’t want it bad-der than the bad it supposedly is.

yeah i dont want to be dark ranger but im forced to because pack leader is literal garbage dumpster tier

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Last night I wanted to try out PL so was running it in +6/7 keys. It felt good when the kill command reset/strike twice procs happened on trash. Times it felt like I was just sending non-stop Kill Commands. Way more Barbed Shot resets compared to DR too.

Did around 850k overall at 615 iLevel, not amazing by any means but is at least viable

i tried MM in a +5 and did 1.8m overall at 617ilvl… bm is not fine

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I said PL was viable/playable compared to DR, not that it was the best parsing or even comparable to MM. BM still needs a lot of work, every resource I look at shows it as bottom dps and the anniversary patch can’t come soon enough.

But in the Wild West of low keys when I had an Arcane mages doing 350k on a boss last night at 613iLevel PL can be played. It’s not a dead on arrival, key is automatically bricked, if you so much as activate the talent if you’re not pushing 10s

I really like the way Pack Leader feels to play. I am continuing to practice with several builds for DR, but it just doesn’t real quite right to me when I play it.

Fortunately, I’m a very average player and get to do what I want. I’m going to keep working with both sets of Hero Talents and maybe I’ll figure DR out. I’ll be honest, the new visuals look kind of cool, but I do enjoy bunches of pets rushing in even if the visuals are very lackluster. It’s kinda like throwing imps at things with my lock. lol

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This may be an unpopular opinion but I love Pack Master. It’s simple and straight forward. They should probably add some audio/visual flair to it though.

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Its also viable in high keys if your groups not morons. I averaged 1.3 mill overall messing around with pack leader in keys.

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Pretty sure pack leader is actually better for AOE than dark ranger currently. However whos knows after the DR rework goes through.