I want player housing to thrive but it is confusing to me now

I remember suggesting something like an wow editor, for scenarios and stuff like that, in which players could develop some content themselves and, honestly, this housing system look a lot like that.

Maybe after Midnight Blizzard can use the same system to enable some kind of custom content creation?

The reason would be socializing, which Blizzard can incentivize, but not force.

If you dont want to engage with people that’s your prerogative, but density does have an effect on people.

And honestly i have no idea what you’re talking about when you say servers are dead and no one talks, because i see people talking all the time, both now but also back before i transferred from tich. People were very social on tich, just also very cringe.

So many main character types keep popping up sporadically, with the complete inability to read the room.

“I don’t care for housing therefore no one does and we shouldn’t have gotten it!”

Bruh, look around.

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I’m not paying to transfer all of my characters to a full server. Blizzard gets enough of my money. Years ago on Doomhammer, I wanted to fish up the fish in Orgrimmar to get that achievement. I simply flew in on my Alliance character, fished for half an hour, got it, and flew out. I never saw a single soul. I didn’t fish on the outskirts- I flew in to the center.

When they added in the Alliance and Horde spirit beasts, I flew in with my Hunter, killed a low level toon that was there, tamed the beast, killed him again along with another low level person, and flew out.

So yeah… just because there are a few full servers left doesn’t mean that they all are and some of us have a lot of toons that we don’t want to pay to transfer. Blizzard has made it clear that they have no interest in making that system cheaper which is why dead servers still exist and will always exist.

What are you even talking about?

The OP asked a question.

I answered the question.

There’s nothing at all that I said that was inaccurate at all. Also you’re strawmanning the F out of my post.

I actually prefer SWTOR’s housing because it’s NOT in a neighborhood.

And because there are all sorts of utility functions.

I really do not understand the appeal of purely cosmetic, forced-socialization housing like WOW is getting.

For those who like that… enjoy, I’m not going to say it’s horrible that it’s there… just wish it had some options for those of us who aren’t into WOW for intense socialization.

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Well you didn’t say “my server is dead.” You said “the game is dead” and are using that misrepresentation to support this idea that density and its underlying psychological effect has no relevance, which it does.

please Odin NO…dont have anything in there to DO other than decorate or it WILL be Garrisons 2.0

Mostly it is. I just don’t see the population of this game being equal to FFXIV. I honestly don’t. If I’m wrong, show me. Until then, I go by my observations and I don’t apologize for that.

crafting tables might be ok because if youre crafting at the table youre not really out playing the game at that point anyway.

What I dont want is the AH or anything else thats gonna keep me busy in there for half the day

Im not saying WoW is in its peak, but its definitely not close to dying. WoWs content cadence+amount of content compared to say a decade ago in legion has basically doubled, if you compare to wrath its probably tripled in terms of man hours required to make, that wouldn’t be financially justifiable if WoW was “dying”

I thought you said you weren’t looking for garrisons 2.0.

I think some functionality is fine - specifically functionality that is already available elsewhere so it’s purely for convenience.

To copypaste a previous post …

Things that should be allowed in houses because they make sense:

  • Xmog : You can’t try on new outfits in your house? Also no one goes to the city for that, people use the Xmog mount or ethereal toy.
  • Craft Table Lite : You can craft but no access to work orders.
  • Extra storage: Disconnected from the bank, you can only access / craft from it when in your house.
  • Mailbox : Duh.
  • Target Dummies: Personal dojo?
  • One 2-way portal to a city of your choice.
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You act as if this hasn’t been a heavily requested feature since the beginning.

This is it. Totally agree.

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Decades ago Asheron’s call had player & guild housing. It was a great gathering spot and was where you could go to get buffs, trade, etc. That was a loooong time ago. Surely something similar could be done now.

No. It’s a giant polygon box dressed up with a texture overlay that you fast travel to so you can stand inside of it and stare at the wall for 10 minutes, then port out. There are zero game mechanics inside the houses lmao. I mean I guess other than decorating it, that’s about it. So it would be like The Sims, just take out every single thing except for house building and then also downgrade the house building.

They should make random invasions happen on the house or something, I dunno. It’s gonna be really monotone and lifeless, hopefully not, but it’s looking like it.

I didn’t say anything about the demand.

I said there are games that are designed specifically about housing that do a much better job than the version that’s coming to WoW.

I said that there is absolutely no utility or player power tied to housing whatsoever.

It’s instanced content that you can AFK instead of in a major city, and you can decorate it.

Soooooooo….Im not sure what has you so bound up?

The house is part of a neighbourhood. Hoods mean neighbours, literally and actually. Assuming they thrive, there will be people all around you.

It is 2025, not 2010. You will never get the game back that existed then and that’s purely a fact of life. People change, games change, and players can’t be forced to be something that they don’t want to be. All a game can do is provide a canvas and let the players work with it as they please (within the limits of behavioral rules of course).

And the good thing is, if you dont enjoy it, you dont have to do it. By keeping it as basically a cosmetic gameplay with some activites tacked on, it says purely that, and not something that needs to be done.