No metric is meaningless, they simply have varying degrees of confidence associated with them. As I mentioned in the post.
Kayberz you are being silly go back to pvp.
Blizzard and time gating people name a more dynamic duo
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That’s just not true. Only a poll of a representative sample has data that is useful. I support the cap but mostly I don’t care. I don’t post more than a couple of dozen times total across all the threads on the cap and almost never like any post. My one vote is equal to the one vote of someone who hates the cap, post hundreds of times against it and likes hundreds of posts that agree with him.
You need to study at least a little of statistical analysis to understand what these numbers do and do not mean.
Plea see show me in the wow handbook where it says you aren’t allowed to partially complete an instance. All the “as intended” stuff is just crap you are making up.
Out of 55k people that have seen it, 1.1k unique users that have commented, and 9.1k likes, only 136 likes are for the post.
Representative samples are relative to overall population, which we don’t have. Barring any other metrics, these are what we have. Compared to the volume and rate of posts requesting the repeal of the change, and popular Blizzard posts, this change has been received poorly.
The petition against it, with far fewer views, garnished 2x the amount of signatures relative to likes in a substantially smaller timeframe.
Just because a sample is small doesn’t mean its meaningless, it means the confidence interval of measures designed by said metric is lower than that of a larger sample. I’m currently running analytics for a much smaller firm than what I typically consult for, and they have a drastically smaller sample - that doesn’t mean the analytics are meaningless, it indicates the value thereof is lesser than that of a larger sample.
I have a M.S. in Computational Statistics and B.S. in Data Analytics, I’ve studied it for a day or two.
The fact is that all we have is useless data that doesn’t tell us anything.
I “liked” the post but I didn’t click the like button. Those who are angry are far more likely to post and far more likely to click like on posts that agree with them then those who aren’t angry or those who don’t care.
All that shows is that a small group is very angry about it. That tells us nothing about how many are against the cap, how many are for it, and how many don’t care. My guess is that the vast majority don’t care but I don’t claim there’s any data to support that feeling. The data from the number of posts and the number of likes is always massively skewed toward those who are angry about something
I don’t believe you since your statistical analysis of the data is clearly wrong. Forum posters are a self selected fringe group that consists of people who are far more likely to post to complain then to post to support or to post they don’t care. There are no conclusions we can draw about the larger player base based on the data from forum posters.
My reality isn’t contingent upon your belief, you can not believe me all you’d like - that doesn’t change the fact. Here’s the group I studied under: https://ccs.miami.edu/about/people If doxxing wasn’t a thing, I’d gladly share my LI.
As said, the value of the metrics is questionable, which is obvious. But outright saying that the post is well received is as questionable.
As I qualified in the post to which you originally responded and thereafter.
When it comes down to it, Blizzard decides what was intended based on the information they have from the time. They’ve clearly decided spam farming dungeons was not intended, and in this case I agree with them. I doubt the developers created these dungeons with anything else in mind than creating an adventure for a group to take on together.
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And you are factually incorrect. I think I’ve made convincing arguments proving that. Your claim to have a degree in the subject doesn’t change the facts. An appeal to authority is a logical fallacy. All the more weak when you claim the authority for yourself.
Appeal to authority also helps set a basis for conversation. Why else does every office have diplomas included, or public officials preface statements with their credentials. It is an intrinsic characteristic vital to establish ethos when debating. I didn’t state, ‘I’m right, your wrong, because I’m educated on it,’ which would be an appeal to authority.
I stated, these metrics have some value, albeit flawed, and responded to your statement of the requirement of studies on the matter with the fact that I have done so.
As mentioned, your skepticism has merit, as does the lack of support for this change in numerous WoW conversation channels and this forum.
The main difference here being you seem concerned with being right, whereas I accept grey areas of relative degrees of ‘rightness’, which is the foundation of statistics.
If we were going to play the appeal to authority game I could easily google up a dozen famous authorities in the field of statistical analysis that explain why self selected on line polls don’t give useful or valid data. But I think my arguments are sufficiently convincing to stand up to scrutiny without those authorities.
Anytime a mage unsubs it is a net positive for the wow classic community as a whole. The exploitative actions of mage players have ruined the economy for anyone that doesn’t have a mage. I myself have had to roll a mage in order to make the gold I need for raid consumes (that would be much cheaper if half the server weren’t mages with 10k gold).
Face it, making all your gold risk free in an instance is trash in an MMO. You should be out in the world being potential PvP content for others, or in a dungeon (WITH 4 OTHER PLAYERS YOUR LEVEL) contributing to PvE content for others. If you’re just watching gold stack solo (or in a boosting group) you’re just as bad as the bots IMO.
It seems the entire point made concerning appeal to authority and degrees or rightness went right over your head. Nevertheless, have a good one
Reveal yourself
Oh so you speak for blizzard now?
Can’t cheat, so quit! Nice!
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Nope, just interpreting events and forming an opinion
Players have been spamming and farming dungeons in WoW since 2004.
So I’m not sure you have a good idea what Blizzard thinks how the game should be intended to play.