I think less addons + simple classes = better for the game

Pot calling kettle black

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Shadow is 100% being gutted and it’s not losing bloat buttons, it’s losing core rotational abilities that are going to leave the spec spamming Mind Flay as filler a lot more which will make the spec significantly more boring.

This is my boldest lie.

You seem like a well informed person, aware of how weak auras work. Their limitations. And how most people use them.

The most common reason ppl wont touch wow is addon and ability bloat carry the most toxic ppl in the community, forgot to mention that, its a major turn-off to most would-be players

Ya i dont need to stray away from logic and hope others believe lies i spew. Try again

UI customization does not have a hard dependency on combat info access. That’s a fact. WeakAuras may have been architected in a crappy way that makes it difficult to disintangle the combat code from everything else, but that’s not WoW’s fault.

Anyway, somebody will probably create a WeakAuras replacement for cosmetic use since there’s clearly demand.

I just picked the game back up after focusing on university classes and work for the past year or so. Didn’t play SL or DF much because they didn’t resonate.

I don’t play shadow so idk anything about the spec or what their changes mean. This character is disc only.

Everything is in alpha right now, so we’ll just have to see what ends up going live. I simply came in this thread to say I support the idea of making things simpler to play. I’m definitely reserving some skepticism on their ability to not over prune as they have in the past. Not very happy with what I’m seeing with rsham.

Shadow has bloat abilities like Shadowfiend, Power Infusion, and Shadow Word: Pain that could go, but those aren’t the ones being removed.

Please read. I didn’t say anything about it being meta in WW though I do recall it being very strong in season 2.

It’s still B tier which means it’s not bad.

Stop looking at representation because that has zero bearing on how strong a class is and you don’t understand the information you’re citing.

Why are you still talking about this?

Yeah 100% a skill issue.

Literally advocating for you to lose your execute.

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You saying PI is bloat is WILD!

i think the biggest wall for potential new players is that the game is too old. if i put myself in a “fresh” gamer’s shoes… the game from 2004 is not on my radar at all. regardless of what changes come to the game.

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B tier by what standard? Some random youtuber’s tier list?

Representation shows what people are actually bringing to keys.

Because you’ve yet to explain how I’m wrong. If you’re so sure I’m playing incorrectly then you tell me how to AoE 30 targets as shadow.

It 100% is. We don’t need 4 1-3 minute cooldowns.

So… then you agree simplification is a good thing?

I don’t think PI is complex and I don’t think removing it would be simplification. You simply cast it along side Void Eruption every time.

So if you have a sequence of five very simple spells that need to be cast in a particular order, you don’t think that merging those five spells into 1 wouldn’t be considered simplifying, because the original spells weren’t complex?

Removing a sequences of spells would be simplification because you’re removing a sequence.

PI just gets used with Void Eruption every time. There’s no sequence to think about. You can even macro them together as 1 key bind if you want.

That person has made it pretty obvious they are not very good.

So you simplified it yourself. Got it.