I side with Sylvanas

The horde that you know of has is Thrall’s Horde and it is a horde that has always sought after peace and to live in harmony.

Like I said, can’t prove it, but the two voices sound different enough and the personality of the first set doesn’t match the personality of the second.

It could be Genn but … that’s not his style. He wouldn’t have taunted her first. Worst thing you can do to an archer.

There is also a pretty notable difference between the voices. The first one seems a little deeper and doesn’t have the same accent as Genn’s.

Bait thread detected. Well done.

Also, I am glad you like sylvanas that much. You’re allowed to and no one can take that away from you.

For me personally, I like how the horde is going now. I am tired of killing my brothers and sisters because of a divided horde.

She was horribly written, what is wrong with you?

Weird how all your likes are from Alliance players, huh?
Well let’s get this party started.

Centered on one of the night elf leaders being killed, driving the other to irrationality and pressuring Anduin to move immediately. Final victory was gone the moment Saurfang had his honorgasm.
Nothing wrong.

Retreat was called for the soldiers fighting. That’s how the player and the army near the gates were fine. Also denying your enemies land and holdings has been Russia’s winning strategy for centuries. If Lorderon was ever recaptured by the Horde the blight can be cleaned up as has been done in multiple horde quests dating back to Wrttah.
Nothing wrong.

That’s like saying Lincoln caused the civil war in the United States. People rebelling against you is something that no leader foresees. Also it was never a true civil war until the last second that was avoided by Sylvanas blasting off again.
Nothing wrong.

This is like faulting Anduin for not being at the Siege of Boralus. The whole battle hinged on the Horde thinking it was a easily mopped up battle from the north, while the friendly but still non-Horde Zandalari’s fleet was defending the docks.
The Alliance had a legitimate win here, don’t give credit to Sylvanas to make a point.
Nothing wrong.

Four ships to destroy the entire navy of the opposition would be considered a major win in any context. But this was after 8.1.5 where she was being written to be full villain instead of just an amoral general. Would be the absolute right thing to do if Lor’themar wasn’t on the ship.

Funny thing is even at her moment of highest betrayal she still didn’t kill anyone outside of the guy she was dueling with. But I can’t pretend that she was right here.
Should’ve stayed and finished the job on the Alliance before going REEEEEEE into the sunset.

If she was trying to end all life then she was really bad at it. All she managed was just one city and two armies. It would’ve benefited her plans more to stay as leader of the Horde and keep the war machine churning. Hell, she simply could’ve not made sure to get all of her civilians out of the Undercity as possible if this was her goal at the start of BfA.
This was the absolute worst bit of the lore in this expansion, and doesn’t make sense from any standpoint.
If I was trolling I’d shift the blame to Blizzard, but nah.
Something wrong.

Anduin abandoned the Alliance to sit on his butt in Stormwind.
What do you mean he doesn’t have to lead from the front?

Man, I sure hate retcons. +1

That was the least wrong thing she’s done since trying to kill Arthas.
-1

Nope. Dar’kahn Drathir. Grandady of Void Elves, and betrayed Quel’thalas to the scourge that allowed them in.
Retcons giveth, retcons taketh away.

In short, she did somethings right she did somethings wrong.
Her only downfall was having the writing team’s attention for one expansion too many.

Good man, following your Waifu is the good move to do.

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Some people just wanna watch the world burn.

They ruined what used to be kind of a good character to appeal to a subset of creepy guys.

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Ok simp


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Okay boomer

Sounds like something a simp would say.

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If that is your RP stand, then be happy.

Were I to have an RP stand on the issue, I’d say I would like to see her tied up to a large dead tree and set on fire. Just to see if she if she liked it.

Sounds like something a boomer would say

I bet you dress up as Nathanos when you play WoW huh?

Nah i dress up with this mog. Dont hate :slight_smile:

So what I hear you saying is there is a tremendous Horde Bias.

Either the Alliance had a stunning victory @ Lorderon (which you deny)

or

The Alliance lost Teldrassil and got nothing in return since Lorderon was a Syvanas win

New audience? Bolvar was always a place-holder character, only Wrath-babies put him on a pedestal.

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Boomer… so 2019, we use “Simp” now in 2020. :unamused:

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I don’t understand what this is all about, the whole redemption arc was only for Jim , she’s still pretty much the Queen of Blades in Legacy of the Void.

“I’m going to eradicate Amon’s forces stand in my way and I’ll eradicate you as well”

Sounds like the old Queen of Blades to me.