Exactly! It was way out of range of catapults in the first place. There’s no way she could have bombarded that tree from Auberdine and even with hundreds of catapults (I think we only saw a handful in total) it wouldn’t have been enough to burn the tree.
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Being Buddhist is not being perfect. That is the exact problem with those arguments.
It is like me thinking all Christians are Bishops, or all Jews are Rabbis.
People love to wield their ignorance like a weapon and try to hurt others using it.
Don’t be so sure about that. Remember the start of the Stormheim quest chain? If you’re playing through the Horde side of that, you get on a catapult that is capable of launching plague cannisters an incredibly long distance because the catapults have been modified to shoot further and faster by the goblins.
Those same catapults are being used by the Horde at Teldrassil.
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Interesting, I’ll have to go back and look at that. It would certainly solve that particular argument I have with the burning of the Tree. Though it still leaves unanswered why the entire population of magic capable people had no defenses against fire while leaving in a tree.
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Are you one of those that only got through half of the cinematic then came over here to GD to go REEEEEEE and missed the final part of the dialogue between Ranger General soul Sylvanas and Uther .
RG Sylvanas : What she did was unforgivable
Uther : Yes it was
RG Sylvans : She (then a pause) I must answer for what happened
Having that part of her soul returned gives her the understanding that there are going to be consequences to what she did .
Maybe if people would actually watch entire cinematics or read past the title of a forum thread there would be a lot less reeeeee going on .
I don’t think it’s the problem of people only watching half of it, it’s the problem that they are skeptical that 9.2’s story will support this in a direction that will be at least satisfactory for a lot of people involved, some sort of payoff for all the terrible things she has done…
Like… idk, she becomes the jailer because without one, the maw and the souls in there becomes dangerous, and we never see her again because this is how she pays her consequences for the rest of eternity?
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Question is will there be more souls going to the Maw since most already know who the new arbiter is
My money is she will have to sacrifice herself in some way to rescue Anduin. She will have paid for her past and redeemed herself at the same time. Also, the Alliance will have to be grateful for her sacrifice which will just stick in their craw 
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I have a better question, Why is there even a Maw? Once the Jailer is presumably defeated (unless the just dump him in the Maw again because that was brilliant the first time) , what is the purpose of the Maw? If there are souls beyond Revendreth’s abilities to correct why keep them around all together someplace? Just disintegrate them into nothingness.
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Technically into anima right? No rebirth, just fuel to keep the system running.
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^^
I mean Bolvar 2.0 is NOT a punishment 
That’s just another form of redemption.
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I say they should punish her by making her read threads like this one.
Not sure how punishing it will be for her but I know after so many of these threads since Start of BfA , they sure feel punishing to me .
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Yeah, you rationalize it anyway you want.
This passive aggressive comment approach just reaffirms my belief that you’re just a self-proclaimed Buddhist.
Grow up…
Anyway, I don’t care anymore. Have the last word. I’m done reading and replying.
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Except that it definitely exists when Danuser wrote her soul to be split directly in half (which contradicts her earlier characterizations), with her ‘good’ self being absent until now.
Except she likely will be. There will likely be an exposition of some kind for the NPCs (beyond what Uther has said about her) to show how ‘innocent’ she really was in all this because of (lol) the soul split.
I fully stand with Baine - should of let her rot in torment.
But anyways, on that subject:
Jaina: “I will never trust her!”
Uther: ‘we need to trust her though’
Jaina: ‘Ah yeah, let’s go super friends!’
Nope, again, watch the cinematic and try to understand it. There is no ‘good Sylvanas’ and ‘bad Sylvanas’ there is just Sylvanas.
To paraphrase T&E
Watching the cinematic and thinking that it’s trying to tell a story that redeems Sylvanas because there’s a good Sylvanas and a bad Sylvanas is like watching Black Panther and thinking that the movie is trying to tell a story that isolationism is good.
That’s not the message that movie is sending, and likewise, that’s not the message that cinematic is sending either.
There’s something about that anima,is residual left over from a soul ,such as emotions ,saddness joy used for the making of sl. then this isn’t a true soul it is an echo of the past life. so where does the soul go?
you have all the right to be mad.
but the lesson in this story is we can’t let our anger blinds us from the goal, we can’t defeat evil if we let our anger stop us from doing what is right.
i am not saying we should forgive Sylvanas i am just saying we need her help for now.
one she has done her part i think the most honorable thing for her to do is face a proper judgement on Azeroth and in my honest opinion?
- death is no longer a option if she dies she will just be sent to Revendreth
- imprisonment is a good option as long as it is not the same way the Night Elf imprison Illidan.
i think the best way is for her to be force to travel between the living and the dead with the purpose of helping everyone that was a victim of her actions.
but that is just my opinion.
anyway just drop the hate, i get your anger, but there is no proper way to make her pay and i do agree she doesn’t deserve redemption however that would contradict the lesson.
i know a lot of people will never agree here but the reality of the Shadow Lands is that it shows us that redemption is possible sense you have a eternity to recover and people cannot hate forever, sorry but is just a fact.
you can hate until you stop your self or like Garrosh you end up disenchanting your self, the point is your hate means nothing to the Shadow Lands.
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We all fought back. Blizz didnt write it POSSIBLE to do anything other than “aw maaan”.
I am under the impression not only forgiveness will be granted:
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T&E are not a good example to use given their ahem, bias.
I’ve watched it quite a few times and experience more and more apathy everytime due to the poor writing, lack of additional lines for the other npc’ s, etc. The dialogue really is not great.
Additionally, you have moments like 'Never in a thousand lifetimes that shows her character split. Her soul is displayed with stark contrast in color and in attitude.
They are obviously, painfully going for the good VS bad inner personality split.
The good version of her though, accepts all the bad stuff (as the good part would, #martyr)
It’s just terrible writing. It’s nearly nauseating to think that Danuser actually thought this would be good.
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