I really hate this mission table system

… Mostly because I am clearly missing a few brain cells or something. I find it overly difficult even using the addon that tells you if your mission will succeed or fail.
Like why is it so overly complex? The Ascended one seems to be the worst of the bunch…

To be clear, I like having the mission tables to help bring in resources like extra fish, herbs and augment runes. But for crying out loud its like frustrating to find the right group combo to win even on fights where your Companions are higher level…

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Which add-on you using? Covenant Mission Helper is the one to use.

Also Mikanikos for Ascended is the OP one that you need to level up and exploit.

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Positioning is really important in the mission table

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Yea I get that… If that was just that I would be fine.

Been using Venture Plan… Will give the one you mention a shot now…

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This is incredibly true. Positioning can change the outcome of a mission entirely.

I recommend covenant mission helper as well. I add a few followers and hit the optimize button on the addons UI and it sets the positioning up properly. Very good addon.

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Venture Plan does the same thing CovenantMissionHelper does, just better. You guys do know that, right?

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I been using it for a few months and never seen a OPTIMIZE button that repositions your troops.

Yeah CMH makes things a whole lot easier.

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It’s that second small book on the part where your troops are. The first book just tells you what the outcome of the current setup will look like.

IT does a helluva lot more calculations than CovenantMissionHelper. I had one combination that took probably 20 minutes calculating the best positions, went through 1,000,000 combinations.

They’re normally very fast though. That was a VERY big outlier.

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YuGiOh for the Game Boy back in the early 90’s is way better than wows mission table game.

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If you wanna play it safe go 1 healer, 1 tank, 3 dps like you would in a dungeon; make sure health and attack power are higher than enemy team or one of them exceeds that of the enemy team by a lot. As others say, positioning is important and sometimes who dies first is important. Say you have 3dps that do nothing but dps a bit but then the healer in the back heals them each round and applies a massive buff to their dps every third round - probably should kill the healer first, so focus some ranged on the healer and take a tank who covers both rows. I found it overly complicated in the beginning too, but if you treat it like an actual strategy game it works well.

It doesn’t really matter if you take healer, 3dps and 1 tank with you but most of the time if they’re at appropriate levels that works well. Can of course also burn them down or add two tanks if the ememies’ collective health is way higher than yours. Or take only dps if attack power is the problem.

I mean mission tables have been a thing since WoD. Are they too difficult for you because of the health and damage output?

Your goal is to try to have more health and more damage than the opponents your adventurers are going to face. Sometimes you can’t beat how much health they have but you can beat their damage by a lot so you will still succeed.

It’s not like how it used to be based on % success chance because it does not tell you this

I mean all other mission tables gave you a percentage of how likely you’re gonna succeed so it was less complicated

At least your followers still gain xp if they fail. I found the % based mission table system a bit boring compared to this new version. However I agree it is more complicated. It does seem there are just times where you need to take risks of failure when you do it

Mine does not have that 2nd small book… Its updated… So IDK…

Oh I like it too and I don’t think it’s complicated enough to need an add-on either. It’s kinda just logical thinking to estimate whether you’ll win or not. It was just a bit meh in the beginning cause the different mission tables were so imbalanced that you felt like you just had to risk in order to win any missions.

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It’s definitely Venture Plan. It’s even on their site.

I would double check that it’s updated.

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OK, forgot it wasnt updated through curse forge… Yea it was outdated…

EDIT: VP is even adding in troops if you need… Its working way better… Sad you need an addon just to play the game…

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Yeah, Venture Plan has to be manually updated from their own website since they’re not on Curseforge or WoWup.

So what you’re saying is that you play the game without addons?

Sorry to say, but you’re going to find the game a lot more difficult without them.

I update mine through Wowup.