I never hated the alliance but now I do

lol the pandering from a panda is gold

seriously :laughing:

NE aren’t people but goblins are :joy:

this is why wars start, treating people sub-human

Didn’t claim otherwise.

It is still better than the utterly morally bankrupt Horde though.

I don’t need morality. Just more ammunition.

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Oh, good times. Such a fun quest. I’d often run around and kill two, three, four times as many goblins as the quest required, just for S&Gs.

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army life for you.

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Kultiras has always been the enemy of the Horde since the beginning Orc quest in durotar

No joke, got to be one of the most fun quests in the game; I just love the cacophony of all the dying gobs.

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It’s such a fun sound. Makes me laugh every time I hear it.

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Pretty much the entire Forsaken quest chain from 1-50 is you slaughtering civilians… the only breaks from that you get are dealing with wild life preventing you from slaughtering civilians… or doing things to their bodies after they’re dead.

people like to ignore the fact that the allaince actually does an equal amount of bad things as the horde and even then the HORDE doesnt actually ever do anything bad.
its mostly the leaders and soldiers doing things without the leader knowing which doesnt make the whole faction evil just those select individuals, so.

they deserve it though, which doesnt make it a bad thing

That’s fine. It goes to prove my original post, but it’s fine that you feel that way.

I felt dirtier playing the Alliance campaign than the one where you just go around blowing Kul Tiras up, raising people from the dead, and stealing artifacts for your totally not obviously evil leader.

It’s not helped by the fact that the Alliance just sweeps all of the moraly grey to openly evil things that they do under the rug, Horde spent an entire expansion having to deal with the aftermath of Teldrassil while the failed raid on Dazar’alor and the Vulpera purges got practically ignored by the Alliance and never mentioned again.

Any informed and unbiased person, if asked about the alignment of the factions based on their historical actions, would undoubtedly say that while the Alliance isn’t perfect they align with “good” or “lawful” at worst, while finding it hard to say whether the Horde is aligned with “evil” or “neutral” at best.

If you want to consider that as “whataboutism”, fine, but that is just your opinion.

The OP is still a Horde main attempting to talk smack about the Alliance, which the Horde has absolutely NO room to speak of or act “holier than thou”.

Neither side is innocent, but Horde is a lot worse especially if you factor in Pre-WC3 horde. Every thing they did to the Draenei (genocide, enslavement, rape, etc.) alone would more than equal out anything the Alliance has done since its inception till now.

I have to admit, my least favorite quest was when you murder Stone, than immediately raise her and be like, “frands? :D”

Liiiiiittle bit sketchy, that one.

Alliance and Horde are both morally grey. Horde is charcoal and Alliance is dove.

This is the issue, the Horde of WoW is supposed to be the one from WCIII, instead we are held to the actions of the ones from before when in WCII it was Orcs (only race that made it all the way), Forest Trolls (Darkspear are Jungle), goblins (different cartel then) and ogres (not playable yet).

Not saying the Horde should ignore the pre-WCIII days, but we need to actually move away from them instead of being dragged back.

:sunglasses: Teldrassil was corrupt and Sylvie did all of Azeroth a favor. Before you go “b-but we took care of that!”… remember that we thought we took care of that in vanilla too.

I agree, we don’t do it nearly enough.

Absolutely mad