Um, easy one to answer
You can all do huge damage and you all can self heal. Other than bandages in Classic only Paladins/Priest/Druids/Shammies could self heal, and most of them got the dps noodle bat for the healing abilities.
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Dear god these are exactly my feelings. Its weird how some people don’t notice the blatant architypes being copy and pasted over and over again underneath all the flashy effects.
I agree with you 100%, I would only add the feeling of seeing a Raid boss and working your way toward Kel’Thuzad, and everything you doing mattering to get to that goal, with no cheap skips, no cheap undermining of the content with difficulty sliders, just a true ride to the end with your bros increasingly getting to that next exciting point as hype builds and builds as you draw closer to the final boss is what kept me playing WoW. This entire concept being eradicated in Retail makes it a forever no even if Classes were fixed to perfection.
That was the most useless answer I have read in a while. You have no idea what retail is like and just regurgitated whatever garbage you could. Next time just answer with “All classes are the same cause they can all autoattack”.
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WOTLK was peak class gameplay. PvP and PvE are a joke in classic, rock paper scissors gameplay is archaic, lazy, and boring. PvE has little to no individual skill, typically silly or boring rotations, and the excitement comes from the loot roll screen.
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A Druid shines most in its mobility, while that may not be important in PvE, it’s the absolute best in terms of PvP.
Immune to poly, can chase or escape nearly anything, can hide, can eat up damage when it needs to, instant heals, and good luck killing 1 if they make it to water and you’re not a shammy, another Druid, or out of swim potions. I absolutely loved my Druid for PvP back then.
But yeah, in the raiding world, I can’t say much for Druids as raiding isn’t my thing, but when it’s Class v Class and not Class v Mob, Druids are some of the most fun to play and excel at being a hybrid class.
And making every class the same and feel the same isn’t? I’ll take my chances against rock as scissors any day if it means my rogue doesn’t get a baked in ability to heal.
As far as druids go, they’re extremely easy to gear. Throughout the entirety of classic there really isn’t anything to get out of raiding aside from a few odds and ends and a hard maybe at one set later on.
Most of the best druid gear is standard dungeons and a good portion of them are pre 60.
Truly is the greatest alt class. The time investment to gear an alt is pretty much not happening in these busy days, but a druid? I can see it happening
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Explain Warrior then.Hybrid class,best tank,high damage.Where is their hybrid tax?
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I said earlier that there should be one.
You want to play a hybrid class in Classic, that’s the tradeoff. Why is this a hard concept? Rogues / Hunters / Mages / Warlocks / Warriors can’t use healing gear to heal others, but you can. You get benefits from all stats, other classes don’t. You can’t have everything. I.e. as it’s already been stated, then you are just like everyone else.
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All these noobs posting on toons that ain’t even 60. I’m clearing raids as a BEAR tank. Tanked Ony already. Gearing any class isn’t hard there are pre bis guides everywhere. Find an open minded guild. Before yall talk about bear tanks the best rag parse is a bear.
My guild is cutting edge on earthfury and we have bear tank in our east and west raid teams.
Most fights in MC last less than a min, rag is like 1:45 fight. Even boomies wont oom starfire spamming.
Archaic? Just because something is old style of gameplay doesn’t make it bad or boring or lazy. The whole RPG style is derived by bringing things to a party other players don’t possess. It’s actually anti-lazy on a conceptual level. Retail has so much overlap it’s literally like playing the same class. Every class has it’s oh s*** button, it’s heal, it’s stun, it’s primer ability, it’s unload ability, it’s burst ability. They just call them different names but it’s all the same thing.
You could have watched any number of streams before Classic and heard in PVP arenas players calling out, “he walled”, “he freedomed”. These used to be unique abilities but now every class has them. Talk about lazy and boring.
In addition to my awesome post above. Yall all realize that we are playing on the AQ patch as far as talent trees go. This makes everything before AQ nerfed af. There is nothing hard about classic raiding except getting people to show up on time or at all. Even our meme specs are doing 400+ dps.
Warrior is a hybrid class that is top tank and often top dps. The explanations seem more like excuses
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All classes can do damage, this is a dumb argument to call Warriors a hybrid. And Warriors are taxed if they tank, it’s called Defensive Stance. You know very well the ability to heal is what distinguishes a hybrid. You can try to reverse that on me by saying, “well look at priests”. But priests suffer a tax as well if they want to do damage and heal. That tax is moving in and out of Shadowform, and having to spec into Shadowform.
You are wrong.A “pure” class can only do one thing,like Rogues and Mages are “pure” dps. Classes that can do more than one thing,like Warriors and Priests, are “hybrids”.
What on earth are you talking about? You think warriors do poor damage in defensive stance? What a joke.
The hybrid “tax” exists no matter how they are geared or specced as it’s built into the class, not what you’re currently doing…
Shaman, Paladin, Druid all have comparatively poor dps to pure in any specialization or itemization.
Warriors and priests are not “pure”, they have multiple functions and roles. So yes, they are hybrid classes.
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This.
I was going to reply, but this person did for me ^
When’s the last time you saw a mage slap on his set of healing gear and heal a dungeon?
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What is your definition of poor?
Yes a DStance warrior doing Sword and Board will be doing poor dps compared to other damage dealers.
If you are calling a Warrior with a 2Hander sitting in DStance, a tank then I don’t know what to tell you. He’s might be the “tank” as in has the most armor but then the hell are we actually arguing?
A lot of the problems with hybrids in vanilla have to do with things other than hybrids. Debuff limit, itemization, the ways the encounters are designed in raids not supporting a hybrid playstyle, etc…
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