Nah man, I can’t even enter a contested area. Soooo many alliance ganking lowbies on heartseeker lol. So, I’ve just been making alts and getting them ready to play in stage 3
My highest character on classic is like 22 or 23, that’s because I am unable to even enter a questing zone lmao.
Come on now! You got Wailing Caverns, just south of Cross Roads Horde controlled area, you have RFK and RFD a little further south all horde Controlled area.
You should be able to get to 40 just doing those.
I strongly considered rolling PvE due to lack of time to play… but lack of time to play will likely impact raids more than anything. So, PvP is the way to go!
The craze will likely die down soon. Now that HK’s count toward a currency, it will always have cause more friction, however.
No… but you wanted “classic”. Here you go… enjoy!
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Honestly if you are that fed up with it already I would reroll to another non-PvP server before you put anymore time into your current character. Because it’s not gonna die down anytime soon and Blizzard isnt going to offer realm transfers anytime soon either.
If you wanna roll Alliance come to Bloodsail. It’s an RP server, but we have a huge population of just for funners as well.
WARMODE is that way ------> Retail
So you’re not a healer???
you literally should have picked a pve server
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Unfortunate it takes 45-60 minutes to get to a dungeon as all the FP’s, roads, and entrances to 55+ dungeons are camped
Don’t listen to those elitist trolls that probably don’t even PVP.
The concensus between all PVPers is that the Vanilla WPVP release was never like that due to multiple factors.
- Size of servers
- The fact that we had 15 years to learn min/max
Yes PVE transfers is a solution but there’s also others that you can do on a PVP server while the situation calmdown.
All people that play for the honor grind won’t be camping boats, zepp or flightpoints. They’ll be in group of 5 roaming and trying to get honor worth targets in zone like Black Rock Mountains, WPL, EPL or Winterspring.
I do like pvping a lot but the big raid meta is kinda stupid and pointless since it’s not efficient if you want to farm honor. So I have my solutions to get out of their ways.
- I farm gold in zones that I can get good 1v1.(Silithus caves for rogues)
- I do more instances (Pickpocket BRD and trying to get some BiS/reagents)
- Play with a group of 5 guildies.
- Level a profession.
You have to take into account that everything you’ll do will take more time for following weeks. They cannot wait til february to drop BGs since they risk loosing a lot of subs. And that isn’t good for people that likes PVP since it reduce your chance to get honor and it augments BG queue times.
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Ya takes awhile not quite that long for me but awhile. 3 deaths at least
I think you’re right. I’m torn on this issue, as I would expect most players worth playing with are as well.
I sympathize with any player getting hopelessly ganked. Because I know in that same position I would find little enjoyment myself. I don’t blame them for not reaching 60 fast enough (there’s nothing classic about grinding out 60 levels at a break neck pace, using questie and YouTube to set records, that isn’t how I remember it at least), or for choosing the faction that is less represented on their server (I consider that to be somewhat admirable) I don’t dismiss those problems as I agree that they are problems indeed.
But I see it from the other side as well. As unfortunate or unpredictable for some players as this may be, the fact of the matter is that they understood (or have no good excuse not to understand) what they were subjecting themselves to when they chose to roll on a PvP server. PvP servers have this cut throat mechanic and while exacerbated now, it’s always been the same difference. You don’t get to take the parts you like when you like them and pass on the uglies when it isn’t convenient for you. This is a package deal, you must take the bad with the good.
That said, your point above should be noted. All of the above can be true and we can still have a problem that could affect us all if this leads to players deciding to un-sub. I know all the try hards and learn to players in this forum are quick to suggest the care bears should just leave the PvP server. But they should understand that were that to actually occur, the biggest shortfall in all of this would soon be experienced by those try hards, as they could get their wish and be left with no one to fight at all.
My suggestion is that WoW should allow some transfers. First I would open it to the players that want to opt out of the PvP server type. Move them to PvE where they probably belong. Then I would take a step back and try to understand the actual faction balance on each server, and consider allowing character faction/server changes that would promote better balance. But I’m not so sure that Blizzard really cares about faction imbalance on each server. I think that is easier for them to manage when building the cross realm battlegroups. Perhaps that is ultimately the best option - to Expedite the release of the battlegrounds.
First off, shouldn’t play on a PVP server. World PVP will die soon and everyone will get bored. PVP servers are pointless as retail learned that recently. The best place to play is PVE. Get to 60, grind gear and do BG’s. Phase 3 will make PVE servers well worth it.
At 56 lvl NE Druid, can only rest xp/grind, yes I signed up for PVP but this is not PvP and as said above this is not vanilla, this is peps getting to 60 in a few weeks played, knowing best available gear/talents and now they are bored. Horde riding back/forth on boats, not allowing Alliance into zones is not PvP, it is just Honor Pt Farming…Blame Blizzard for a bad launch and not helping players to decide faction…when you are outnumbered 3, 4 or 5 to 1, it is not PvP
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I disagree somewhat. A few months ago Asmongold said phase 2 would be the golden age of wow, now he says phase 2 is so unenjoyable he doesn’t even want to log on.
The problem with saying that people knew what to expect with phase 2 is that the game was nothing like this back in 2005(for many reasons). And because a lot of people played private servers which were PvP servers, but they all launched with BG’s.
I knew what to expect from PvP servers in phase 2 only because I played on Northdale as horde, and in the first few weeks there weren’t enough 60’s on for the BG’s to be popping, so APES would run around killing everyone in Searing Gorge waiting for their queue to pop. I imagined a dozen APES on every server doing that all day everyday.
I also remember what happened in K3 when they allowed people to queue for BG’s anywhere in the world. The horde would queue for BG’s from Dire Maul/BRM, camp there until their BG’s popped, then when the BG ended they were right back at it again.
I originally rolled on Westfall PvE server because I believed phase 2 would actually be fun on a PvE server. And since the PvP gear is the best PvE gear for many classes, I knew there would be a lot of PvP, but that the PvP would be consensual.
You would never have to feel guilty about killing anyone, and it wouldn’t ruin the game for everyone else. I could have actually enjoyed that. I don’t enjoy camping flight paths or roaming ganksquads.
Once BG’s come out, PvP servers will be the best servers again. Because the PvP will go back to fighting for resources.
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Honestly the whole PvP on a PvP server thing is really lame AF.
How is blasting someone that cant even really hit you considered PvP?
If thats what you have to do to PvP, you really have no ability to PvP at all.
If you wanted PvP you would hang out in max level zones… what you want is free honor to pretend you can actually PvP.
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Remember when streamers tried holding a duel tournament and needed Blizzard intervention to remove 1 SHAMAN.
You are 55 start doing dungeons for ore raid bis to level. You are perfectly capable of leveling.
What is the difference between a PvP realm and a Normal realm? 1 thing, the option to choose to be flagged.
Knowing that, unflagging can only happen in open world places that others can get to you (unflagging in a 5 man instance does nothing since no one can attack you there anyway)
Open world PvP. That’s the difference. You can still flag for wPvP on Normal realms.
So the difference here is wPvP is a choice at loggin on PvP realms and a choice at will on Normal realms.
Vanilla never had rules of engagement for wPvP. A level 60 can attack a flagged level 1. Don’t agree, then don’t flag.
It’s not about fair, or competitive, or anything else. Flag or don’t flag.
If you want to unflag at will, you have to be on a Normal realm.
That or learn to escape, fight back, or quit.