I just leveled a char to 20 in retail

Good grief, go outside or something. :roll_eyes:

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A few months ago I thought it would be nice to “donate” by grabbing 30 day play time. I logged on to this character and checked the allied stuff, saw exalted and wondered why revered wasn’t acceptable. After all you only need that for other perks.
I then tried out leveling a survival hunter. While I liked the concept I just didn’t enjoy the questing. The quests were too linear, easy and then I noticed the mobs were always my level o.O
it’s better to just wait for the real thing. :smiley_cat:

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Without trying to be antagonistic, you don’t have to participate in the threads you don’t like. You can also try to engage in discussions defending the points of modern wow that people are bashing instead of just asking people to stop bashing it.

Also, I don’t know if you’ve checked out the general discussion side of the forums lately, but the complaints about the game here are pretty on par for what the active player base thinks too. Probably because there is some overlap.

Lastly, what do you hope to gain from telling people you reported them? If they get reported enough that blizzard actually cares, they’ll find out from blizzard what the did. If they don’t get actioned, the only thing you’ve done is let that person know that their behavior was reported and deemed acceptable, so you’ve outlined the best possible ways for them to troll you in the future.

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Because the other option is soul crushingly slow and difficult grind that’s not even a challenge.

Yeah, that’s horrible advice, because when I did that, I got labeled as a troll and very regularly have replies that serve no purpose other than attack me.

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I hate how the economy is in Retail.

I’m spending 20,000-30,000g per week on stacks of intellect potions for raiding. And my only source of gold is selling the occasional BOE raid drop. Not sure how long I can keep this up.

Its too slow because its boring. It could take longer and people wouldn’t complain if the classes and combat were actually fun. Killing stuff in 2 hits is not fun. Not having to worry about your health or mana or aggro ranges and inventory management, or literally everything that comes in the guise of a “quality of life change” has rotted out the fun from the game. Because the leveling is so boring Blizzard has to make if faster which I think is just making it even more boring. Its a vicious cycle.

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Pretty much.

Classic WoW people on this forum don’t want to hear that there is anything good about BfA (there is, and bad too. Just like with Classic), so they simply call you a troll and dismiss you and report you for liking BfA.

Could be worse, you could live in the EU where they just passed the practical death of the internet as we enjoy it.

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I’m sure it has never occurred to you that this is the Classic forum and discussion here is for gasp. … Classic ™

Strange concept I know.

And yet… People here talk about … gasp BfA all the time.

Strange concept, I know.

So just for the record: I like BFA. It’s quirky and weird and I have fun with tmog and I like that I can get into raid content with lfr.

Please let me know if you’re reporting me for that.

All that being said, I’m going to drop it like a ton of bricks and never look back when classic launches.

Maybe, and this is just a maybe, it’s not just what you say but how you say things that get you reported for trolling?

He suggested a level squish. It needs to happen in order for levels to matter again, but I’m worried that blizz is listening to the forum babies too much and wont implement it. Without a squish, levels will become increasingly trivial, even beyond where we’re at now.

I think Ion is pinned down by the need to please too wide of an audience. He’s a damn smart dude and I generally trust his game design (generally), but from my perspective, he’s under external pressure to keep the game incredibly accessible, to the point where he can’t really implement any changes that would hurt that accessibility, even though retail is an absolute joke in terms of difficulty. Blizzard wants the uber casual audience. Things like his comments on PvP vendors being too hard and unintuitive tell me he either has no faith in the WoW community, or he’s being pinned by upper management. There’s no way a dude with his history with the game personally thinks that PvP vendors are too much for players. I find it absolutely impossible for the GM of Elitist Jerks to say that kind of bullcrap of his own volition and thoughts.

There’s obviously a problem with retail development, I just don’t think Ion specifically is the problem. It’s likely a systemic thing. I can infer from the Q&As that there’s an obcene amount of red tape to cut through to get anything done in the WoW offices.

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I just bought WoW tokens when i was raiding hardcore because it was more time efficient to grind IRL than in game. It sucks, but efficiency is efficiency.

You werent ONE shotting anything unless you were in FULL Heirlooms AND your weapons are enchanted with elemental force.

Everything about BFA is why wow is legitimately dying now.

Pretty sure that is an exaggeration. Whilst it is trivial, Blizzard made significant changes to the levelling process including nerfs to heirlooms which make it impossible to one shot mobs for most classes.

Not saying it is any better, as personally I think it still is terrible. To be honest I would prefer to one shot than have this in between where mobs are still trivial but just take a long time to kill after a dozen levels.

Fun fact: Your opinion does not equal a fact. To the tons of people enjoying BfA, WoW is not dying.

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Hunter’s Kill Command one shots any on level mob I’ve ran into, from my testing on a Void Elf alt. Same with Mortal Strike on a Warrior.