You know what… i say let anyone be evoker. Just take anything that dragons give to the class away if they are anything other than a dragon. Oh wait. Thats all of it.
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why would you reply with a strawman to a post in which a strawman was addressed?
Im honestly shelving my Evoker as soon as we can make the other classes Dracthyr. Which technically doesn’t make this the place to post this but still- holy man this class gets shafted so hard visuals wise.
They’d need to make animations for what, two- at most THREE spells for Evokers to have visage casting? And that’s pushing it even. We already have the “dream projection” pvp talent thing- they can CLEARLY make one for Deep Breath.
Every other spell you can basically already cast in Visage- you can literally SEE IT if you start casting them in visage then it auto-shifts you over to dragon when it actually casts.
1/10 blizzard not listening, again, again, again, again.
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Lmao, yes, playing a human or elf which already exist, totally makes sense.
You know what would boost popularity of vulpera? If they could turn into human or elf.
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If you remove the requirement of Dracthyr forms, and alter the animations to not require draconic attributes, what’s the difference between an Evoker and a Mage beyond a healing spec?
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Non-dragon evokers should just be renamed to dragon cultists. No abilities, just a slight buff to Vald rep.
Anyway, I like visage for the fact that we were told they were doing playable dragons and I wouldn’t give it up, I still think the idea of using breathes, wings and tails in visage is profoundly stupid.
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Brother, just because they cast spells does not make them the same class. I hate to tell you this, but priests, mages, and warlocks can all cast and be humans, or bloodelfs, or orcs even, but that STILL does not make them the same class or even play remotely the same.
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You are right. I don’t understand this idea that we are some second hand mage just because we don’t want to use a dragon form for some abities. Is a DK just a warrior because they use a sword and hit thing? Is a DH just a rogue because they dual wield? This asinine comment is absolutely grating. Nothing about
Devestation/Augmentation/Preservation plays nothing even remotely like a mage, so why would the way your character looks change that?
I mean, half of monks and DH’s make themselves look like rogues these days. THE POINT IS: WHY DOES IT MATTER? Let us just look how we want to.
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You can. Use a toy to look not like a dragon.
It’s not just about appearance, it’s more importantly the identity. To us it’s the dragon class we’ve asked for and by giving the option to not be dragons, it makes it less so. It would be like allowing a warrior to take on any of the druid forms. It just doesn’t make sense outside of toys (which are illusions that don’t really effect the lore).
I guess after saying all that, i would be more okay if it was a toy, but I still think it’s stupid to play a dragon class without the dragon. You pretty much just a wizard at that point which is not the identity that I enjoy.
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This arguement that how other people will enjoy the race/class will lessen it for you is such an insane take lol. Do you care that your neighbors don’t drive the same car as you? Or that their house is a different color? Does anything about how others live their lives change anything for you irl? Apply the same logic here.
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It’s more like if they do make perma-visage a thing, then my Evoker(my hotrod) is no longer an Evoker(my hotrod), it’s a wizard(a moped). As I have already stated.
Nothing you said has anything to do with what I said.
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So your evoker turns into a wizard while you play in dragon form the entire time because someone else is not a dragon? I see, makes total sense.
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In a way, yes. Not super extreme, but yes.
We are playing a video game btw.
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Then be happy with what you got lol
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No, other players can play as perma dragon and that makes me feel less as a human so I’m not happy.
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You really cant use that logic, because the dragon came first. If the evoker was a wizard first, I wouldn’t be complaining that i couldn’t be a dragon wizard. I would be complaining that I didn’t get a dragon class.
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There ARE illusion items in alchemy which will make you appear aa another race. Try them to see if they work.
They should separate and make all barbershop outfits into transmoggable outfit pieces, like the Earthen/Dwarf outfits.
Then make Dracthyr fully transmoggable.
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It’s not about casting spells period, it’s about the spell school. Mages use Arcane, Frost, and Fire and have time magic. Evokers use Arcane, Frost, Fire, and Time magic. The main difference is that our Time magic is more expansive while their Arcane magic is more expansive, and our obvious draconic abilities. We also have Druidic style abilities as well. The point is, you remove the draconic abilities side of things and we end up with essentially a mage with more time magic and a healing spec.
In short, class homogenization which should be avoided at all cost.
Again, instead of pushing us to be like every other class, a better solution would be to simply give more options for the Dracthyr model. Primal, Void, Bulkier, Experimental, etc. would go a long way towards making the Dracthyr model more appealing to more players.
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