I gave retail a chance

BfA is the earliest I have ever left an expansion, and I haven’t left many to start with. Its problems mainly come from systems unique to BfA or things held over from Legion.

I was an altaholic for many years, but I couldn’t stomach more than one alt in BfA.

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Very logical, and very well-explained.

Both Classic and BFA have flaws, but people are so different that we disagree about what those flaws are, and about what things are “fun”.

I find it silly when anyone trashes BFA (or Classic), just because they dislike that game. There’s nothing that everybody likes, is there?

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Yep.

Does anyone dislike Tauren?


Aside from Arenas, the thing I’d be most interested in doing in BC is running Heroic Instances. But, even in Classic, it’s pretty difficult to fun people to run instances. It seems like the majority of people who play Classic are the same people who prefer (not rated) BGs.

Yeah the leveling is why I love the game and if you read I still enjoy classic. The thing is I just don’t enjoy the watered down content after running both 50+ times on P-Servers.

Well yeah Classic has been handled abysmally. There’s multiple reasons why I paused classic. I’m checking out retail seriously to see if I like it, so far it’s ok could do without the corruption gear.

I don’t even care about retails PvP. I know it’s garbage.

Just reinforcing the facts, that’s all.

Also if the content is so nerfed why is he wiping at all?

Simply put, if you did that and found something in Retail to enjoy, good for you.

I tried Retail during early Legion when there was no WOW Classic to compare it to or look forward to (yet), and it was not the game for me. I’ve kept up on changes to it, and it sounds less and less like the game for me, to the point I’m not willing to even install it to try.

I don’t spend much time trying to farm mats like that. I like leveling alts and farming mats along the way for their professions, and for end-game mats and crafting I am very blase. If my miner sees a Rich Thorium Vein and scores an Arcane Crystal, I’m happy, but I don’t dedicate time to riding in circles looking for one, gnashing my teeth when someone else gets there just before me.

I’ve never done that. I’ve kept an eye on LFG and Local when I’m in a zone and have all the quests. I keep an eye on LFG when I’m on another character, but I can swap if a group is in need of what my alt can do. I have a couple tanks and a healer in my friend list who have been great in groups, and we call on each other.

Compare that to what my Legion experience was - queue up while sitting in town staring at the Auctioneer, accept queue, poof into dungeon and feel like it’s a mad scramble to get it all done as fast as possible, back to town and repeat. Horrible. I stopped doing dungeons after the first time or two in regular ones while leveling.

Other people may love that and do Mythic+, but to me it is the epitome of what’s wrong in Retail dungeons. I’ve had much more fun in a 2+ hour slow crawl of WC with someone DCing, a wipe that involved killing respawns, a long AFK that was unavoidable, and a great sense of accomplishment when we finished.

Compared to the fun of the next tier requiring me to repeatedly do the same thing again to get the newest iLvl version of the same thing I already have?

Personally, I don’t play for loot. If something isn’t guaranteed - crafting or quest reward - it would be nice to have, but my enjoyment of the game is not hinged on getting it. That’s a lesson I learned in TBC and it served me well in the first half of Wrath.

For you, and I’m sorry you feel that way. For me, there is a lot of fun. I originally planned a single character. Instead, I’ve got around 16 across five realms, the highest three being 55, 49, and 45. I’m having a blast leveling across a variety of ranges, doing whatever comes up that I want.

You cant simultaneously complain about a problem while also perpetuating the thing you’re complaining about…

Or to put it another way: “Be the change you want to see in the World Of Warcraft” Pretty sure Uther or someone said that

Idk why but Classic (and Vanilla) WOW is the only MMO that I actually enjoy the grind in. I enjoy all aspects of the grind with the exception of high PVP ranks. I even enjoy farming gold, mats, etc…

I don’t enjoy trying to find dungeon groups tho… so I limit them to guild only runs… or join a guildy who is forming a group.

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The lack of people paying attention, drunk, lack of caring, tired. All kinds of reasons when half the people don’t really want to be there.

I was grinding out mobs or something this morning on another alt, and planning my next few levels through dusk wood and ashen vale, and found myself whispering ‘’&*#@, I love classic’’ to myself.

Go figure.

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It’s ok to play both.

Classic is just retail lite where the player base provide all the services that Blizzard provides in retail.

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I’ve just had a bad combination of friends quitting, guild struggling to recruit, being left out of good group comp cause I’m dwarf. Then there was constant domination of horde controlling farming spots. I really felt like I couldn’t do anything cause 3/5 times a group has a warr or wants a mage for DPS.

So I quit, and when I come back I’ll play something useful.

It sounds like you were guilded with absolutely new players.

None of what you say makes any sense but you seem so genuine.