I felt better getting my first shoulders in Vanilla, than any item today

What’s crazy is… I remember watching a video or someone telling me that a big part of the idea with the updated loot model was that, seeing as how there is no real end piece when raiding, it will want to make you raid more to get that war forged socketed epic upgrade which will get less people quitting, but back in vanilla and even BC once I had a geared character (granted I had no fully geared characters, it wasn’t until BC that I had my first one) I didn’t want to quit the game, I wanted to make a new character and do it all over again under a different experience.

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I was an altoholic, and I have to admit, getting that first pair of shoulders on each alt, felt just as good each time.

I also think getting your first long cloak was pretty cool. As most of the cloaks 1-20 are very short in length.

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He searches for the Scythe of Elune…and he may have found it! If he has, then the Redridge Mountains, and the kingdom of Stormwind, will soon feel his dark might.

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Defeat him, and bring me his Pendant of Shadow. Do this, and the kingdom will owe you much.

Reward

You will receive:
Rose Mantle

  • 5 intelect
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I remember shoulders helm neck and especially trinkets taking forever to fill those slots. That said I cannot remember the specific items I filled/refilled them with… I remember the first ever epic I got (if you do not count the blacksmithing item that summoned an epic mace for a time duration), was axe of the deep woods.

I think artefact weapons were a really cool system and were a great example of how modern wow can make loot feel a certain way (azerite is a junk system). I am very surprised they did away with artefacts post legion. They could have easily “drained/re-emempowered our artifacts with new skin/talent tree”.

That is how it was with the blue and epic pvp sets. Shoulders came last. When you saw someone with the shoulders you knew they had experience and put the time/effort in. I cannot wait to rock the grand marshall shoulders in classic.

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World of recycle craft.

True, this is something current wow needs to do, make it so gear isn’t just a piece of trash you can replace in moments of obtaining.

Helms for leather users looked like crap or at least the first ones that you start seeing were. I loved how you didn’t get helm shoulders until higher levels unless if you were engineer, it felt rewarding.
Shoulders looked weird but felt rewarding when you got those wailing cavern shoulders or those green shoulders with spirit.

no mention about length of cape/cloak?
was soooooooooooo satisfying going from those little ones to a proper full length.

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This so much. The first long cloak is a huge step, especially in character appearance. Helms are cool, but a lot of the low level ones are super ugly and might chop your hair, so I usually end up turning show helm off.

The short cloaks are usually ugly, but getting that first long one around late 20s/30s always made me think my character is getting more powerful and ‘heroic’.

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Vanilla pserver experience says otherwise. When your first grey shoulders drop, or when you craft a good weapon, it feels amazing.

I recently crafted Truesilver Champion https://classicdb.ch/?item=7960 and was giddy with joy the first time I equipped it and saw the proc in combat.

Or maybe you are projecting the way you’d feel about those shoulders onto others?

I still remember my first shoulders. I was a lowly warrior questing in loch modan and I saw a blacksmith making a bunch of bronze shoulders to level up. I was secretly wishing he would give me a pair when he was done(I was too shy to ask), and lo and behold, he did! It felt so good to have gear in that slot!

Each time I play a leather or metal wearing class, the first shoulders are always cloth. Looks good though and one must savor the early shoulders before they become absurd looking in late game.

Not at all; I readily agree that some people will feel a great deal of accomplishment hitting those milestones in classic, but something about the OP’s tone strikes me in such a way to suggest that classic won’t help his experience.

I love that before Death and Taxes / Elitist Jerks really became the theorycrafting hub for WoW that people mostly didn’t have a clue and just played the game.

I remember going for full Lightforge (pre-buff) as the 8 piece bonus provided some fear resist and then you add the holy paladin talent for additional fear resist and I felt like the Anti-Warlock in WSG.

I would rate it higher than getting a mere epic in modern WoW; more like getting a Legendary.

That Hillman’s shoulders for leatherworks

5 Stamina
4 spirit

You felt way stronger once you put those shoulders on. Even if they were grey with no stats

I had the best heirloom in vanilla. A skinning knife with fiery weapon.

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just like every time you loot a bag to fill up your bag slots till your slots are filled. Feels soooo good

Between transmog and the constant shower of loot and relying on titanforging for upgrades makes gear in retail feel so insignificant.

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