I feel like Blizzard should bring the hammer down

People will simply move to Wow-heroes and use that score, there will always be a scoring system.

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You CANT make an accurate gear score. . THe original gear score addon was pulling numbers out of rear ends and assigning them to gear. The community is who started making it a needed thing. Blizzard broke it by putting item levels on things which rendered it moot.

And no one said they will “break” lfg addons. It will be difficult to do since most of them rely on chat channel implementation. To break them they must break the chat system.

The same goes for any mythic. i o type addon. If it falls within the confines of the in-game api and they are not selling add space in the addon then there is little to do. It is up to us, the community to police this. But my faith in that disappeared when Gearscore became so toxic

I love addons. I made a site to track addons. But I do not want to see these types become a thing.

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Rio would be pretty useless in classic. There’s no m+ and def no titanforging (thank god). Rio is really useful for sifting through all the people who apply to a 15 but have never done a 13. I don’t see Rio becoming all that useful in classic.

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Of course not from being made, just getting deleted after it’s made, ya dig?

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you do not seem to understand how addons work…

you cant just delete an addon.

If they don’t want people to make one they have to break it, and you cant break one of these without completely destroying the API…

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Classic definitely had its fair share of toxicity. I remember my server black listed an ENTIRE guild from ever participating in premades, raids, and world bosses. All because the guild master of the biggest guild who organized server premades and raids hated the other guilds GM.

I dont like add-ons but blizzards gona need to make some serious upgrades without them for a 40 man raid to be workable. Some add-ons were essential for keeping track of 40 people, while others are simple life quality upgrades.

Do you really need an add-on to keep track of where thorium and black lotus spawns? No.

From what I understand, raider IO is only necessary due to how anyone can get super high gearscores in BfA; if anyone relies on it for vanilla, I will probably just avoid them outright.

With limited server pool of players, they probably can’t be infinitely jerky/picky anyways…I’m gonna love it.

Pfft no.

They can very easily remove API functions and not completely destroy the API.

They can also ban addons without needing to push out an API update.

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Stuff like this is not on Blizzards radar and nor it should be.
Only addons that can be considered cheating should and probably will be banned.

Stuff like “gearscore” is not cheating even though it’s really stupid and it’s up to the community to decide whether or not they want it to be a thing or not.
I will be one of the top raiders of my server and I certainly ain’t going to use any gearscore addons.

When are some people finally going to understand that a game developers job is to make the game and it’s the players choice how to play it, within the rules obviously.

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In some cases yes, in this case no. If they broke the API functions needed for something like this they would cause a LOT of other useful non contentious addons to break. I mean what API calls does a gearscore addon need? the ability to look at your gear you have equipped?

Also you can’t ban an addon they have to be completly open source and openly readable by blizz own addon policy. If you ban an addon but don’t break the API it uses then someone else can just put out the same addon with a new name and it becomes like trying to delete something off the internet, except in this case EVERY person who used the addon has a copy of the complete source code downloaded and stored in order to use it.

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They could make GetItemInfo return 0 for the 4th return. That’s an item’s base ilevel. They could also delete the GetDetailedItemLevelInfo which is only used to get an item’s base iLevel.

Won’t stop gearscore addons that don’t use iLevel to calculate an items gear score of course.

Code being openly readable has no relevance on if Blizzard bans the addon.

Blizzard can mark an addon as banned on the server. Any addons marked as such won’t load at all. It’s very rarely used these days as the UI team prefer contacting the addon author directly to ask them not to do whatever the UI team doesn’t want them to do.

Man you need to chill out. You can’t gauge gearscore in classic like you can in later xpacs. Imagine declining a war who wisely using edgemasters over a war in t0 gloves due to higher ilvl. It’s not gonna work that way

Power resides where people believe power resides.

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Dunno what raiderio is, I don’t think much can be done about gearscore because way back when there were sites you could use like the armory to find peoples GS. Plus, aren’t people just gonna check your gear anyway? All it does is make doing so faster so they don’t gotta run by every little item.

So, you want raid leaders to just take the time to manually check everyone’s gear and deny them based on that? Just seems like a waste of time to me.

Better idea. How about you don’t try to sneak into pugs while ungeared to get free loot?

So when to are acting a fool in Trade chat and message your GM and he/she kicks you from your guild.
That would be fine with you?
But no addons that think for you , I get that.
How about …

Exactly. You deny the idiots using the addon any power and they just shrivel up.

If you’re pugging then people should expect a minimum standard of gearing, if you’re not willing to spend the time to check other people why would I want to join an obviously doomed pug?

And with how ilvl vs power works in classic using a gearscore style addon is going to destroy any chances of success. Remember priests running around with stam trinkets? I do.

Pretty sure item level wasn’t a thing until wrath pre-patch, I remember being confused by it when i first saw it TBH.

That said I can’t imagine the need for rio in classic, it mainly exists because ilvl is no longer a reliable metric of a players experience.

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