Magatha did take the reings for a bit, but was driven out by Baine, Grimtotem that went against her, etc. She asked Garrosh for help but he REFUSED her.
His last words were handing control over to Sylvanas and telling her she has to lead the Horde.
Horde does not do too much in monuments, the 2 main ones being the Stone of Durotan in Alterac Vally and the one in Demon Fall Canyon where MU Grom fell. So is it alliance bias that Horde did what Horde do instead of what alliance do? Do you want the Horde to be Horde, or do you just want them to be the evil alliance while the alliance is the āgoodā alliance?
not ragnaros, in classic wow they were enslaved by ragnaros and if never interefered they would be slaves of ragnaros to this day.
the adventurers did everything, remind of anything decent they did on their own without us being involved?
Alleria is not a void elf, and umbric is just much of a race leader as the 2 pandaren ones are.
my point remain, most of her power level is stolenā¦ think about mediv for example, he was ultra mega powerfull because he was a guardian, a guardian receives the power of other mages into his own which makes him ultra powerfull.
In jaina case, it with the power she stoles from other powerfull people, one of those people is lei shen a guy who is actually powerfull unlike her.
Malfurion was alive btw, not anymore since he took ysera placeā¦ the 3 are alive but so what?
let me tell you a short story about shandris btw, during bfa in the campaign the alliance army was planning a strategy to use agaisnt the horde, and then comes Shandris a very old supposedly skillfull and strong night elf generalā¦
Her idea to attack and strategy compared to the actual strategy of the mortal way younger strategy leaders? uhhhh just go there and zug zug the enemy to death, and we win uhhhh durrrrā¦
iām refering to pandaria events and shadowlands events, which he lost many times i must tell youā¦
watch Malfurion begging for help being rescued like a princess because of Xavius.
talented yes, but she still stole her way to the power stealing other people power.
name me powerfull iconic mages in wow lore, most of them are great on their own, khadgar, kaelthas, azsharaā¦ they were badass mages on their own merit.
Jaina compared to them is just a cheater, none of the mages i spoke above needed to stole any artifact or person power to be powerfull mages.
Oh, I dināt know thisā¦ Interesting can you please give me a reference to read on it?
If this is like you say then it would explain why in BfA she confronted a whole Raid of empowered Azerite Champions and survive not even showing any drawbacks or wounds in the later scenesā¦ Even Thalyssra was suspicious in the way she question politely about her displays of power in the Battle of Loderon when they join forces against Sylvanas.
It was always found odd to me such displays of power wile more experience older Hero NPC show always some sort of drawback or drain complexion when using that much arcane powerā¦
I speculated after SL when I saw the cinematics of Jainaās Father might have made a bargain with a Death Entity behind the after life of sailors and sea creaturesā¦ but I love to read where what you said its mention!
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In 5.2, Jaina sent the heroes to retrieve the power of the Thunder King, which she added to her Staff of Antonidas. She then vowed she would use said power to bring down the very walls of Orgrimmar.
after the theramore event Jaina created an army of water elementals, but not using her own powerā¦ she stole the magic power from the focused iris on the nexus on the eye of eternity.
oh yeah, and her staff is Antonidas staff which is basically an artifact weapon
She is. Only void elves can switch into void form.
yes Ragnaros. Except for that hig justice betraying Moira the cult of him was disbanded.
Storming Zuldazar in patch 8.1.
The wins outnumber the losses.
Not relevant. He was part of the main reason Darkshore was taken back. And is in full night elf control once more.
Power is power. It doesnāt matter where it comes from. As Cersei Lannister said.
I think the Florida man has better chances.
That was just a gift. The real Staff of Antonidas was kept by Arthas.
Yseraās time is limited. They will switch places before Dragonflight is over.
Well they should. Start honoring their heroes instead of treating them like deplorables. Just naming stuff after them doesnāt cut it.
The Horde is already the red alliance due to the council.
He crouched on his throne when the demon poison finished him. A pathetic death.
And I liked it. Showed a more edgy side of the Tauren finally instead of being walking pushovers. Even Pandaren fight back if you punsh them too many times.
Thrall is the most respected shaman by the elements. Heās effectively a demi-god.
Baine was defeated by an actual god you imbecile.
Thalyssra and Jaina are not the same in power. They arenāt even the same class.
Gazlowe is a non combatant.
Ji getting outskilled by Aysa has happened before the pandaren even chose sides. Play the story my dude.
Youāre referring to the entire raid of BoD with Talanji. So, thatās just blatantly wrong.
Everybody else more-or-less justā¦ Arenāt important characters. Like. Ever.
Oh wow ok, thanks now it makes perfect senseā¦ her power up in BfA and SL dināt make sense to me, as talented as she was written in the lore to be. Specially when you fight her in the future in that old time caver dungeons on Cataā¦ she really wasnāt that powerful!
If we ever we get another faction war I would love and will be expecting to see someone on the Horde smart enough to break her Staff!
Oh no, now you made me hopeful to be in the Horde again! (Joking)
Thank you for the info I really never knew that as I never play that part of the story.
All Horde heroes have been honroed, Grom, Doomhammer, Cairne, Even ones like Kargath and other old horde were honored. The thing is Horde honor their heroes differently then alliance. Thing is Horde heroes are flawed heroes, if the Alliance were DC heroes, Horde would be Marvel.