Then horrific visions. These are just withered training 2.0 with mythic+ affixes and a worse time gated currency in order to run them.
Can we please start adding fun things to the game again? Torghast is looking like withered training 3.0 + garrison. Great, we can spend the whole expac in an instanced dungeon for 2 years.
For petes sake can we please start working on things that bring community back to the game? I would kill for a classic community on retail with the current quality of life changes.
Shadowlands is looking like a big no from me right now.
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Withered army training was way better than visions. Would trade back in a heartbeat. Withered army training was also effectively optional after you did it once.
But: yeah. Optional solo content is fine, nice even. Mandatory solo content without an alt skip/catchup is not fine.
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Thats very true and a great point to make.
You have clearly never had to taste pineapple on pizza.
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I would eat a pineapple pizza a day if I could get all my visions done without my hands doing it.
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I loooooooooooooove pineapple and canadian bacon pizza.
Yes don’t @ me people.
I love what I love! 
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I’m surpised superman did not appear to plague the OP with their rhetoric yet.
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Nah Garrisons were still worse.
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What you must understand with supes is that supes has a hot/cold relationship with Blizz. In a few months supes will be the biggest Blizz hater and then will turn into the best blizz defender when shadowlands starts.
My prediction!
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How about stale cereal and pineapple on pizza. College life, smh.
I mean, this is basically what M+ and Raids are, just with a bit more variety.
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yeah I am not a big fan of visions either…
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What if there was one mythic dungeon that had 20 random connecting subsections that each slowly rotates, but you had to go with whatever current door was open for said section.
The mobs/layout of each section could be sliced from previous dungeons in the game.
In other words, one dungeon could have you literally be like timewalking little sections until the end. Maybe even mix in a scaled raid boss
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Don’t like em don’t do em. They’ve added multiple catchups for you so you don’t have to run them for CR and if you are running them for the gear reward you only need to do one a week for that. I’m literally sitting on 100k CVs and 5 vessels right now because I only run one a week.
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Yeah, no. I have no idea how you’d even come to this conclusion. They’re only vaguely similar in that it’s instanced content that you keep doing.
You might as well be arguing that Ulduar was AQ 2.0 since it had an Old God at the end and Ny’alotha is AQ 3.0 since it also has an Old God at the end.
You’re vastly oversimplifying things so you can act like you have a point.
Right, Blizz just needs to boost the “fun” code some. Or you could give some examples as to what, precisely, you find fun.
What community? Standing around for hours trying to get into a group? Tried that back when it didn’t have any “classic” or “vanilla” adjective attached to it. Not keen on seeing it again.
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What “fun” things do you suggest? Since your post completely lacks any elaboration on this.
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i agree the content is stale. There should have been more to last 10 months. But nope. This is what we get.
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the whole thing is just a mess. at this point it’s like ion is trying his damnedest to troll his customers. the content is just awful, then they double down and make you do an even worse grind for an entry fee. if this were a brand new game, it wouldn’t last a year. it’s just existing off past glory.
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I enjoyed Withered training and Visions. (But I basically do not care about my cape level or corruptions, I am at a point where I am fine with DPS for the content I do)
I also think Hawaiian style pizza is THE BEST.
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Horrific Visions aren’t perfect, but I personally don’t mind them. In my opinion, a lot of the people are simply sick of BfA at this point and Visions are an easy target. I know I am so done with BfA.
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