Fire will still be downright bad and essentially dead weight in any group. +25% to LB is also still miniscule based on how low it is now. I know they tune things gingerly but jeez…even 10-15% would put us way lower than frost/arcane.
I know, I know, Fire was meta in high keys in DF (and mid everywhere else), but letting a spec rot because you can’t tune Living Bomb (which no one even wanted) is just frustrating.
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based on my meters, those numbers feel sufficient. I’m not doing the most, but i’m still competitive in all my m0 runs. granted, we’re not pushing keys this week so take that with caution.
Currently 20% of my damage coming from meteor + comet storm from frostfire. Change my spec and rotation (mostly excess frost and shifting power for CD reduction) for more meteor casts and firefall procs.
I think 6% will definitely make Fire healthier. Fire tends to scale kind of weird, and especially with mastery:ignite I think it’ll add up more than it seems.
I dunno, I’d rather specs go from bad to “perfectly viable” rather than rocketing to the top and suddenly you’re awkwardly competing with meta chasers and waiting for your next nerf.
Plus mage hero specs are a little wonky on the whole and I wouldn’t be surprised if they have a bit planned for them
No, 6% isn’t going to make fire viable, the problem is much deeper than an overall damage buff. It’s actually crazy that all these specs are getting like full reworks on the 20th anniversary update but fire is getting little to no attention whatsoever. The entire talent tree and way that fire is built right now is terrible and it needs an overhaul. Nobody gives a crap about ignite/living bomb. Pyroblast is hitting for 300k while warlocks are spamming shadow bolts for 1.2mil and frost is spamming ice lance for 700k even after the nerfs. Nobody wants a DOT spec with fire they want meaningful pyroblasts and the way they have designed the spec is dog and they refuse to fix it.
You hit combustion, a 2 minute cooldown and literally just spam pyroblasts that do zero damage into your target and it feels like trash. Meanwhile I can play ret and have wings and HoL burst every 30 seconds. It’s pathetic and the design is beyond garbage I can’t even believe that the expansion launched with fire in this state, its unplayable. You might be able to get by in PvE with these meaningless DOT buffs but the spec is dead on arrival for PvP and wont be good until they change this garbage ignite/living bomb nonsense they are so obsessed with. If I want to play a DOT spec ill play feral or Aff lock… No thanks blizzard.
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We almost there, need only one more round of buffs to touch arcane, in single target, of course
We need the option to be able to go into a higher ignite damage spec or a higher hitting pyro spec.
I personally love spamming damage and having ignite tick away while I continuously pump out pyros.
Everyone should know by now that WoW devs have huge egos and are pathologically averse to admitting design failures.
How long did Ion stick his big head in the ground during Shadowlands, ranting about there being no ripcord to pull until FF14 clapped WoW so hard it made him finally admit to and pull said Ripcord and change a ton of stuff players had been clamoring for?
5 minutes of watching that dude on camera and i could tell lol.
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I would agree with that and honestly they are tuning every week, I am sure it’s not the last if it didn’t hit the mark.
Agreed… pyro is so pathetic now and the aoe side of our tree has been abandoned. Current rank standings have fire mage at the bottom, D level I watched a pally this morning almost one shot an add… I did the same add and it took several casts to kill it Outside of combustion, and I hate to say this, but we are garbage. I’m currently 602, and my pyros are hitting a dummy for 120K (no buffs). In the 20yrs of playing this game, locks and mages were always the pure DPS, yet in DF, you barely saw them in raids, and I was told I could only play fire at 25+ keys cuz it sucks at lower ones. Do I tell demon hunters they can only play havoc in certain keys?? Class spec restrictions again??? Once again, fire is being told to shelve itself and play arcane And I am getting tired of folks saying “you were meta in DF” lol. Please, fire mages were only meta in organized groups, high keys, and with specific classes, etc. I’m not asking to be OP, just asking to be competitive.
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