I don't believe in a BiS essence

Its not hot just very humid.

No need to be rude tho tbh

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something about receiving spells or “essences” as a quest reward seems completely stupid. I guess blizz has gone full blown immersion breaking with their game design these days.

Then again, I just relearned how to fly for the 6th time by pleasing a bunch of robotic gnomes and fish people from pandaria so…

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Well of course there are bad ways. For me, as an example, getting the rage generation essence wouldn’t help me because during combat I have a constant rage all the time. More rage for me doesn’t mean more damage, it just means more useless rage, I don’t play fury the way someone who is rage starved does.

Do you… do you not press rampage?

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All the time, and it’s my main source of dps. Its cd resets like nothing for me. You can sim me if you’d like to see the breakdown of my skills. While it’s not the most optimal DPS, it works out for me in actual combat. I end up doing more damage done than I do DPS because my essence instead gives me crit.

Same for arms, I’d always have less dps than someone else, but more damage done, because crits are just so high on arms. The problem with arms, is you can be subject to rage starvation, which is when you’d use the rage generation essence. That’s strategy.

I’m sorry, but there will be essences that will be more desirable to some classes for most situations. And there will be situations where certain essences are just no brainer best choices.

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By Using endless rage you sim for 780 more, its a noticible dps increase from a single talent

This contradicts itself.

Sims are not equivalent to skill but logs are, unfortunately I’m not allowed to share links yet but according to your logs there are a lot to improve, you are on average better then only 35% of warriors, honestly its easy to improve the best way is to listen to what the theorycrafters are saying since they do the math.

Check wowhead.com its the best place to start fixing your rotation get your BIS and use your best Essence, after that it’ll be easy to parse higher.

Also i’m not trying to be a dick, I just believe that with effort people can improve.

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This has been stated before, but i really want to state it again.

Saying there is no bis is flat out wrong. You can choose to have your own style and be happy with the results, but there will always be a best way.

And if you dont want to be cutting edge thats fine. Im not. But dont go around trying to justify your personal choice denouncing simple fact.

We get it. You like something that is other than the best way. Just own that decision.

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Also i’m not trying to be a dick, I just believe that with effort people can improve.

Yes you are actually, and your condescending and destructive criticism of me this entire thread is almost half if not entirely ill-willed. There is no denying with effort people can improve, but it doesn’t mean that you have to be the best to clear content.

I’ve watched 415+ people die to the lasers from the bomb in the Jadefire Masters fight. I’m talking people with Mythic Raid/Mythic+10 gear in 8.1.5 fail to such an easy mechanic. I’ve also watched as they eat Flames of Punishment in Opulence,
place hex on entire groups of people, and outright refuse to get on voice comms for Mekkatorque.

You assume I don’t know my rotation, you assume I haven’t spent countless hours in front of a training dummy, and you assume that higher dps=success, and you will continue to be denial of strategy being the ultimate decider of success. If I could judge your character in the same manner I’d put you on the same level of people who join my groups with the Mythic+ mindset and fail miserably at easy things.

I cleared Heroic BoD in 2 weeks after coming back (without my guild either). I’ve slacked off since 8.2 release to work on stuff for the next raid. If I can clear Heroic BoD in 2 weeks, I’m pretty sure I can clear Mythic EP later on. The point of my original post is that you don’t need the BiS to succeed in game, offering people advice to the pressure placed on others by the community, but you, no you are against that and would do anything to be the best of the best. If you want to be the best so badly and not play for fun you should be playing a single player game not an MMORPG.

In any case I’m done here, I don’t like to argue with ignorance.

Man, you should try arguing with yourself. You’d hate that.

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If you feel insulted when people correct you that is on you.

People like that exist, I do not get what you are trying to achieve by writing that.

Logs prove it.

Spending time in front of a training dummy is worthless if you don’t correctly do your rotation.

doing better Dps does tend to make content easier believe it or not.

I never said that strategy was worthless, simply that even with strategy good gear is needed.

Yet I’ve done higher keys then you.

That is easy to do when you out gear the content

Different raids and 2 significantly different difficulties.

No, you said

Which is false, just look at world Memory of lucid dream VS Vision of perfection for Arms, its a 3,428 dps loss.

I would indeed love to be the best, who doesn’t want to be the best.

I cant be the best if there is no one to beat.

I suggest not reading your own post.

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I don’t believe in prison. Therefore I can not go there.

Seriously though. I get what you mean. BiS is always BiS for those mechanically inclined enough to do it all. Talents, traits whatever. Those less adept have to do what works for them, and probably get better results.

Lol, that is a good analogy.

I don’t understand why people think better damage doesn’t help. A fight like M Op is super easy if you overgear it like we do on reclear. Mechanics ARE more important than damage, that is a fact, but if you output enough damage there is less room for error because you simply have to deal with less mechanics. We were phasing through the first 3 rooms on Opulence before the golem used the fire spin which is the ONLY way to wipe in phase 1.

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Maelstrom means so little to my spec. Math doesn’t lie.

Hang on a second, a dps that doesn’t want to do more dps? I must be on the wrong forums or something…

I think this topic is pretty idiotic but I’ll play along, I for one would never take the advice of someone that has never cleared a raid other than heroic bod in their entire play history. But you can literally simulate every possible aspect to your character which gives you a basic idea of your potential obviously in a simulated situation, but in the end it all comes down to the player.

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I understand what you’re getting at, but it isn’t quite right

Say, for example, I’m playing a healer. I’m not particularly well versed when it comes to healing and I find mana management to be the thing I struggle with most, so I roll with Lucid Dream to help with that

Is Lucid Dream the best essence for me? Possibly. Is it the best essence I could possibly run? Maybe not

Because if I were better at mana management I’d be able to run an output essence and thus I’d perform better overall

So while I agree that peeps should realistically play whatever they feel fits them best, there certainly will still be an overall BiS. If that makes sense

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Also the more damage you do only gives you more of a buffer when timers are concerned, this can mean very little on some fights and more on others, mythic krosus for example in the nighthold. If you didn’t meet a certain dps requirement then he’d break all of the pieces of the bridge and you’d fall to your death, this is a more point blank way of explaining a dps requirement on fights, other fights aren’t quite as blatant as that fight in my opinion.
Also if you don’t want to research how to min max your class to better your guild/raids chances I’m sure you won’t be in there long or they don’t care about being stagnant in normal difficulties, heroic is the old normal difficulty btw, it’s barely any more difficult than lfr/normal but you can’t ignore the mechanics you didn’t learn in lfr/normal prior.

Not going to lie, I had more fun on Krosus when we barely made the dps check compared to just absolutely smashing the dps check. But I was also tanking so I needed little things like that to keep me awake.

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