I can't seem to get in a +15 unless I use my own key

[Violight-area-52]

@Zuldazar-malganis

Better than a good fire mage or boomie? Or are you just too stoopid to realize?

Depending on the group comp and affixed I could certainly see myself nabbing a ret pally over a fire mage. Probably not boomking they bring damage and utility

[Bloomsday-sulfuras]

Sounds like just bad luck tbh. I take Rets to my 17s and 18s.

[Sarama-firetree]

@Wonderclam-icecrown

I sign up for dozens of mythics. Whichever one I need, I sign up 5 at a time, and almost never get accepted

Grab a shield and switch specs! Problem eliminated.

[Drakov-zuljin]

Do you understand supply and demand?

[Zuldazar-malganis]

@Sosari-shadowmoon

99% of the runs I have done, over 300 of them, have all had melee. They are very valuable. So, I am not sure where you get that idea from.

There’s 2 or 3 mdps in queue for every rdps. The devs made them too easy and too valuable for too long; now the meta has shifted and not everyone is willing to change character.

[Vanya-emerald-dream]

This x 1,000.

After studying various spec damage profiles thoroughly this patch, my favorite dps specs in PUGS are:

• unholy dk
• outlaw rogue
• fury warrior
• frost mage
• MM / BM hunter
• all shamans

[Argorwal-ysera (Argorwal)]

@Vincent-nathrezim

@Taanksk-frostmourne

Item level too low for a non-meta class for pugs. You have to be 225.

I don’t disagree, but it’s a sad state in the game when you need 225 to get into content that drops 210.

For getting into a group you are competing against other applicants not the content.

You don’t “need” 225, but when a group has 20 dps to choose from and 7 of them are 225+ with 1800 scores do you blame the leader for picking them over you? Would you purposely pick the person 10 item levels lower with much less experience “just cause”?

No matter what happens nearly everyone applying gets a rejection notice.

[Argorwal-ysera (Argorwal)]

@Zuldazar-malganis

@Sosari-shadowmoon

99% of the runs I have done, over 300 of them, have all had melee. They are very valuable. So, I am not sure where you get that idea from.

There’s 2 or 3 mdps in queue for every rdps. The devs made them too easy and too valuable for too long; now the meta has shifted and not everyone is willing to change character.

12 classes in the game.
9 can be melee dps
6 can be ranged dps

Tanks are enjoyable for solo content due to ease and all 6 tanking specs have a melee dps spec while only 1 had a ranged dps spec.

Melee has always been inferior to ranged for raiding.

Blizz really needs to add another ranged class already.

[Zuldazar-malganis]

@Argorwal-ysera

Blizz really needs to add another ranged class already.

Supply and demand, it’s obvious players want to play melee that’s why all new classes have been melee.

[Flauris-stormreaver]

@Sosari-shadowmoon

Ret pallies are like fire mages with their short cds and aoe burst

[Flauris-stormreaver]

If you need lust and you have a melee spot open you take the survival hunter over ret. Survival pumps big aoe damage.

[Zuldazar-malganis]

Ret takes priority simply because SV hunters don’t exist.

[Holyblitz-aegwynn]

I’ve ran high keys with plenty of non “meta” comps. That being said, you obviously still need some synergy, but weekly affixes also play a part in whether a group is going to take even a single melee dps. Spiteful, volcanic, storming and quaking are easy enough for rdps to avoid, yet most melee always mess these up. At the end of the day though Outlaw, UH, WW and even Fury bring more to the table than a ret pally.

[Controlflow-medivh]

Switch to PROT you will get more invites than you can count. Tanks are in super shortage. Everyone wants to see big numbers ( myself included ) but no one wants to tank

[Zarikas-ysera]

People over estimate the amount of IO and gear is necessary to time a 15. I plugged my +16 key yesterday and took a 203 tank and a 207 ele shammy…still under by almost 5 mins.

[Icypickle-thrall]

My man you make these post every week. Please join a guild that actually runs mythic plus like you want tok, you will have so much more fun

[Controlflow-medivh]

100% agree joining a good guild is the way to go. With your gear you should be fine for +15. I cleared 12 and 13 with only 207 and doing great dps. You will be fine with your item level.

[Partypizza-boulderfist]

You just have to keep trying. Don’t expect an auto invite when there are tens and twenty so dps applying with higher io

[Aaloysius-proudmoore]

… is this your first time maining a melee spec?

[Gortys-thorium-brotherhood]

@Wonderclam-icecrown

I’m not sure if it’s just that nobody wants ret pallies or what.

It’s because someone said ret pally was awesome this expansion so people main their ret pally. I main ret pally too and I see plenty of groups asking for specific classes, gear types, etc as well. It’s not all about the class.

Also, this week’s quest is 4 mythics - I find it is the absolute worst time to try to do keys. Either people are more picky about who they invite or you get in groups that fall apart. I typically take this week off from keys since the quest gear isn’t that great anyway.