i used to do the alliance leaders just about every week for months after i had gotten the achieve and mounts.
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Is there any advantage to using M+ gear in PVP? if you’re in 246-252 gear from M+ carry?
would you be squishier doing pvp in pve gear? (been away 7 yrs, not sure if stats changed)
You should feel bad for making me feel bad for legally cheating! 
Depends if the gear has versatility on it or not
Pvp gear scaling is 239 at 1000 rating, then incrementing by 3
So using 242 ilvl pve gear with no vers is significantly worse than what’s available at 1200 rating
Using 252 ilvl pve gear with vers at sub 1800 rating is an advantage
Depends also on how early on in the season. Having a 252 mythic weapon on week 3 of a season you’ll completely out damage any competition
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Nope. Not over good PvP gear anyway. PvE gear has too little versatility, even the PvE pieces with it it’s at a lower value than PvP gear. And with the 2 piece trinket bonus versa is the most important stat.
That said, of course there is a point where raw ilvl will superceded versatility. Someone in full 252 M+ gear will probably have a better time than someone like 215 in PvP gear. But in general PvP gear > PvE gear for PvP. Which is how it should be.
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Ya same. I tried pugging my way to the stuff but the groups just couldn’t get it done. And normally I wouldn’t buy a boost for gear that would be outdated next raid but these were heirlooms, stuff you could use over and over, forever. So it was well worth it.
I’m telling you it’s not far fetched to believe the vast majority of legit 2k raider io players and 10/10 mythic raiders boost just by looking at how many 10/10 mythic guilds and 2k raider io players there are and comparing it to the 100s of thousands of discord boosting community member there are.
Do all players do it no. But it’s a not a stretch to infer from the data that more do boost for gold than dont at that level of play.
I don’t even care that people boost and I think is part of the game and fun for people. I’m just pointing out what is pretty noticeable.
Is it good or bad for the game I don’t know.
Boosting is inherently a problem created by competitive players. AOTC was created so boosting was the result since a casual player cannot get into raiding without having AOTC. Since high end gear is locked by high rating for pvp of course boosts will exist. This is without even bringing up the fact that some sought after mounts and collection items are kept behind things like AOTC and high pvp rating and ksm.
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I think it largely depends on who is being boosted.
Like, I could be boosted to full BIS and you’d never know it because all I’d use the gear for is to pound out my dailies a bit faster, so unless you inspected me, you’d never know.
Someone like me doing it would make zero impact on the game at large doing it. But if it was someone doing something competitive to get and edge, ya I could see it being bad for the game.
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Buys game, pays sub fee, buys store gold/mounts/pets, pays people to carry them through said game. So why even buy the game?
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In my opinion, it really comes down to what an individual player thinks winning is in WoW.
It doesn’t have a finish line, except if you count world firsts per season I guess. I don’t think you could buy a spot on one of those teams and still get the W though.
Here is an example of what I would consider winning in any random patch:
High PVP rating
M+ for KSM
Mythic raid completion
While doing that I’ll get all the cool transmogs/mounts/achievements along the way. Did I miss any of the main patch objectives?
Everything I listed in my scenario of winning can be, and is being, paid for as I type. Whether Blizzard is directly involved in the transaction or not doesn’t matter.
Beyond that, I really don’t care what strangers are doing with their time or money. I have as much chance of seeing most people in game again as I do someone at a truck stop off I95 twice.
Indeed, there is definitely a special place in hell for someone who skipped out on buying WoW tokens because they found a cheaper RMT deal.
Whether someone is pro-boosting or anti-boosting in general, I think we can all agree that we all must draw a strong moral line at whether Blizzard gets cheated out of their cut of the profits in the boosting market.
Blizzard defines cheating in their game and we abide by that definition when playing their game. RMT boosters are cheaters and indeed deserve their own ring in Hell.
Tldr;
Captains Log, Supplemental.
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Don’t worry WoW will continue to support pre-defined avenues of boosting. It is all about making more money in the long run.
If whales want to fund my rewards and game time then I have no issues at all with that.
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It sounds like you thought I was being sarcastic, as if I need to be convinced. I think we can all agree that Blizzard’s terms of service aren’t just some self-serving contract of adhesion, but really set a moral framework for what it means to cheat.
I, like you, am also morally patriotic about Blizzard’s terms of service that permit boosting for gold but prohibit boosting for real money (unless used to buy WoW tokens first). It’s very principled.
OP, I wouldn’t have too much of an issue with boosting if Blizzard hadn’t put their fingers in the cookie jar so they could get their cut. This changed the boosting industry and I don’t think it changed it for the good.
In the past, players would go out farm gold and then buy a boost. Not a lot of people put that much effort into it, so the number of boosting organizations was small.
Then Blizzard introduced the token so they could get their cut. This create an entire new industry. I just checked the Group finder and there are about 25 M+ LFG, 13 of them are boosts. There are 15 Raid LFG, and 10 of them are for boosts.
^^^
That is the real issue people are having with this industry.
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Dear Diary,
I keep coming into threads where they complain about imaginary problems.
Why does this happen? Am I defunct in some way yet unknown to me so that this keeps happening?
Maybe I need help? But where do I go? Who do I talk to about this so sensitive of a problem?
And why would someone name themselves “humanbeak”? Humans don’t have beaks.
I’m so confused. Thanks for listening, Diary. /sigh.