The same reason that you have to do a +21 key.
You technically get something for doing or repeating a 21, via it progress to vault slots, io/m+ score, or practice for a 22.
There’s no reward for repeating the MT.
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I don’t do +21 keys, I don’t do any keys, that ‘hyper competitive gobba go fabst’ timered content stress fest doesn’t interest me in the slightest
The only reason I’m even touching MT is because Fel-Bear for RP purposes
You get progress towards vault slots doing 15s.
IO is the same thing you get from Mage Tower, appendage measuring.
Literally like raiding, we could simply put together a rankings website, based on “execution” (ie, speed and damage taken) and setup a point system based on it. Warcraftlogs does it for Raids.
Would that satisfy your ego ?
You weren’t answering his question.
Also not sure why you’re freaking out.
There are no rewards from “repeating” the MT challenge once you’ve done it. Completing, timing or timing another 21 of the same key has rewards that I previously stated.
I know you’re being both facetious and sincere at once, but you’ve accidentally identified a truth about other players: We all have differing motivations. Even those of us who confess to enjoy the same content will often engage it in different ways.
One of the big problems I see on the forums is that every poster thinks their way of enjoying the game, or their way of interacting with it is the appropriate one and anyone who feels differently is being silly.
I bet a lot of players would be happy with a leaderboard and more reasons to be back in the Mage Tower. I’m not one of them, but I don’t think that’s as hideous a suggestion as you are trying to infer. To outright dismiss is as a degenerate thought so you can object without guilt is especially dismissive. I don’t think you’re intention is to demean, I think you just aren’t prepared to accept other player’s thoughts on what is fun for them.
TL;DR: I think we all need to be more open to what others think is fun or not.
Not really following, I have a Druid, I don’t need to post on it to complain about the Guardian Challenge, its free for everyone to do is it not?
Shaman is crying about peoples legitimate complaints to overtuning of the MT.
Guess you did Maybe miss it.
I did. You get the trill and excitment of knowing you pushed the bounderies.
You just want that to be publicly visible on top. But the basic reason remains : it’s purely to test your own skill and improve your metrics.
I’m not, you’re the one that keeps butting in all the time.
False, satisfaction with oneself is reward.
I actually would find it fun to have such a leaderboard.
I was only infering that Rensi here can’t fantom the concept of personal satisfaction being it’s own reward unless it’s attached to a form of public boasting.
Fair enough. But you’re still telling him the right way to feel, or where he should derive that satisfaction. I’m not trying to pick on your or hold you accountable for anything. I just think there’s a bit too much hand waving at all the unhappy players. Not your fault.
I did it in this gear, but I used bash and Galactic Guardian. Other talents unchanged. 3 days ago.
It’s hard, but that’s entirely the point, isn’t it?
You’re missing like the key word of the original question flit posted.
Repeating.
Realistically there is nothing to be gained from repeating MT for self satisfaction, there’s no higher rung to climb. That’s not true with M+.
You’re something else.
Not really, I’m just telling him there is a form of reward to repeating current mage tower.
What is rewarding is subjective, not really a matter for debate as he’s trying to make it.
For sure, not arguing that it shouldn’t be hard, I’m arguing that it’s over tuned.
Damage/Health wise, it can be nerfed 50% and still be a hard challenge, because you have to get the mechanics picture perfectly, what’s overtuned and frustrating is also having to deal an enormous amount of damage as compared to the original Legion challenge, without the Legion borrowed power benefits, so Guardians compensate with stacking strong trinkets, consumables and enchants, and bash their heads against it till all the stars line up and you get the kill.
This doesn’t mean its not over tuned.
The damage is really just a timer. It’s not the hard part. That’s how long you have to do the challenge (mechanics) for.
But it’s a big part of it, deal enough of it to take him down before his Annihilates start getting to 3+, while protecting Velen, while dodging Infernals, while stunning and downing mobs, while interrupting.
If it was just about ALL those mechanics, i would have 0 problem, it’s that i also do not have the damage i did in Legion to comfortably deal it without tunneling long enough for any of the 1 things i mentioned above to end the run.
I have a guardian druid and have completed the challenge. It was difficult but certainly not impossible. I think it is tuned just fine.
I am not sure what shaman you’re talking about because no one seems to be crying except you, lol. I think what is actually going on here is that you either don’t have a druid or you are just not every good at Guardian and want someone to throw you a softball.
That’s the challenge. You need to do your rotation while not tunneling on it.
If you took away the damage portion, it guts the encounter. You don’t need to focus on doing damage, but you do need to do damage. 5 annihilates is probably the absolute upper limit, that’s a pretty long time with orbs and what not.
Multitasking for 2 minutes is the hard part of the challenge.
I don’t understand why they don’t just do multiple levels of difficulty for MT, similar to Torghast. Have different levels (with appropriate rewards) for all play styles. So those who just want to go in, see the content, and be done with it, are happy, and those who enjoy running it multiple times until they succeed (and get a better reward for doing so) are happy, which means everyone’s happy.
Is that really so hard?
This is false. There are two types of players:
- Those who think their way of playing the game is the only right one, and everyone not playing the way they play (or claim to play, or would be playing if they weren’t a forum-only character) is playing the game wrong.
- Those who are fine with other players playing differently, and enjoying different content that is provided for them.
Not to worried, their just another hypocrite, they pretty much admitted to it…